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Posted by rdoc on October 28, 2009, 1:32 pm
I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
water.
It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
and leave the room a soggy mess?
I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
my questions:
1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.
2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
under the tank?
3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
temp any).
Thanks
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Posted by rmorton on October 28, 2009, 2:27 pm
rdoc wrote:
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> I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath rugs
> stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
> linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
> when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
> there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
> but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
> water.
>
> It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
> they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
> that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
> it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
> sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
> critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
> and leave the room a soggy mess?
>
> I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
> the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
> my questions:
>
>
> 1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
> not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
> and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.
>
> 2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
> under the tank?
>
> 3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
> to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
> temp any).
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
Probably don't have god news for you but you could try mineral spirits
to remove the stuck backing. Should not harm the flooring but might
break the bond between it and the pad. Make sure to have good
ventilation while doing this. The gray under the tank is probably
mold/mildew transferring through the back of the vinyl from being
constantly damp. Only way to fix is to replace flooring after stopping
the sweating. No good ideas on how to stop sweating.
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Posted by charlie on October 28, 2009, 2:42 pm
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> rdoc wrote:
>> I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath
>> rugs stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on
>> the linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the
>> last year when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting
>> the rugs wet as there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides
>> up to the rug... but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate
>> it is anything but water.
>> It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept
>> but they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something
>> to clean that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's
>> easier to say it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this
>> tank had some sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is
>> was not critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still
>> dripping wet and leave the room a soggy mess?
>> I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
>> the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here
>> are my questions:
>> 1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
>> not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
>> and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.
>> 2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
>> under the tank?
>> 3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any
>> ways to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that
>> affects the temp any).
>> Thanks
> Probably don't have god news for you but you could try mineral spirits to
> remove the stuck backing. Should not harm the flooring but might break the
> bond between it and the pad. Make sure to have good ventilation while
> doing this. The gray under the tank is probably mold/mildew transferring
> through the back of the vinyl from being constantly damp. Only way to fix
> is to replace flooring after stopping the sweating. No good ideas on how
> to stop sweating.
i've had rubber backed mats get sticky as they age just through normal use.
they started sticking to things so they got tossed, so i have no idea how to
remove the residue. try mild things first and work up, as anything that may
also dissolved the rubber will also probably attack the linoleum.
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Posted by DGDevin on October 29, 2009, 12:45 am
charlie wrote:
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> i've had rubber backed mats get sticky as they age just through
> normal use. they started sticking to things so they got tossed, so i
> have no idea how to remove the residue. try mild things first and
> work up, as anything that may also dissolved the rubber will also
> probably attack the linoleum.
Long ago I lived in an apartment where a clause in the lease specified no
bath mats with rubber backing as the rubber (or whatever it is) can leave
stains that are not coming off no matter what cleaner you use. We had
something similar happen with rubber feet on a kitchen table. I've also
seen foam shelf-liners stick to shelves and/or anything that was on them for
a long time like tools etc. So it seems the smart thing to do is avoid the
use of rubber or rubber-substitute materials in contact with floors unless
you're sure the material isn't going to stain or bond with the flooring.
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 28, 2009, 4:00 pm
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> I currently need to get a bath painted and freshened that had the bath ru=
> stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
> linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last y=
ear
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> when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet=
as
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> there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug..=
> but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
> water.
> It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept b=
> they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to cl=
ean
show/hide quoted text
> that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to sa=
> it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
> sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
> critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping =
wet
show/hide quoted text
> and leave the room a soggy mess?
> I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
> the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here ar=
> my questions:
> 1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
> not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
> and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.
> 2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
> under the tank?
> 3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any wa=
> to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects t=
> temp any).
> Thanks
1 - Lighter Fluid (not the BBQ type, the type for "flint & wick"
lighters) and WD40 are both pretty good for dissolving adhesives
without harming most surfaces. Try it in a inconspicuous spot first.
2 - The grey floor? I'm thinking you might be out of luck if it's mold/
mildew. You might try a little bleach in a small area and see what
happens.
3 - A tempering valve would work the best. Here's a neat one:
http://searchwarp.com/swa413729.htm
Other than that, you could try insulating the tank:
http://www.ehow.com/how_117384_stop-toilet-tank.html
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> stuck to the floor. The backing has come off crumbly and remained on the
> linoleum (sp?). I might believe the folks who have used it for the last year
> when they say that the toilet tank kept sweating and getting the rugs wet as
> there is a grayed area under the tank and along the sides up to the rug...
> but there is absolutely *no* smell that would indicate it is anything but
> water.
>
> It puzzles me, actually, that the rest of the room seems very well kept but
> they do not pick up the runner, though... maybe they used something to clean
> that made it stick and don't want to take the blame and it's easier to say
> it's the toidy and not their fault? I do know that this tank had some
> sweating a few summers back but my understanding is that is was not
> critical. Maybe they leave the regular mat while they are still dripping wet
> and leave the room a soggy mess?
>
> I guess I'm saying I feel sure it's not whiz and likely water but leaving
> the door open that it may be a cleaner or something. At any rate, here are
> my questions:
>
>
> 1. How can I remove the backing without destroying the linoleum under it,
> not knowing what stuck it there? That flooring is only about 10 years old
> and needs to go (and should have gone) another 10.
>
> 2. If I can save that strip... how can I get the gray out of the flooring
> under the tank?
>
> 3. Outside of plumbing in a hot line to the cold supply, are there any ways
> to stop the sweat? (This is well water from a deep well if that affects the
> temp any).
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>