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Running 2 electrical cables through same hole and staple? AC 06-25-2006
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Posted by AC on June 25, 2006, 12:47 pm
I'm putting in a couple of new electrical circuits in a new room. What
is the accepted practice when you are running two cables in the same
direction? I have drilled a hole in the studs to run one cable, but
with a 3/4 inch hole, I can fit two cables in the same hole. Is this
the right way to go, or is the norm to drill another hole a few inches
up and run the second cable separately?

Same question with respect to stapling cables coming in and out of the
boxes. Is it the norm to staple each cable separately to the stud, or
to secure wires running in the same direction from the box with a
single staple?


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Posted by on June 25, 2006, 1:26 pm

>I'm putting in a couple of new electrical circuits in a new room. What
>is the accepted practice when you are running two cables in the same
>direction? I have drilled a hole in the studs to run one cable, but
>with a 3/4 inch hole, I can fit two cables in the same hole. Is this
>the right way to go, or is the norm to drill another hole a few inches
>up and run the second cable separately?
>
>Same question with respect to stapling cables coming in and out of the
>boxes. Is it the norm to staple each cable separately to the stud, or
>to secure wires running in the same direction from the box with a
>single staple?

The box will hold the answer on the staples (listed for one or two)
but it will really be a picky inspector who calls it.
The other issue is "bundling" the cables. As long as you are really
only doing 2 (4 current carrying wires) it is not an issue but when
you start getting up around 4-5 (9 current carrying conductors) be
sure you fan them out between support points so they are not bundled
more than 24" at a time. That is one reason why you see those fans of
cables stapled separately near the panel

Posted by Calvin Henry-Cotnam on June 25, 2006, 2:03 pm
gfretwell@aol.com (gfretwell@aol.com) said...
>
>The box will hold the answer on the staples (listed for one or two)
>but it will really be a picky inspector who calls it.

Code states that the cable must be secure within maximum distances from
a box and every so often, with the exception for fishing cables through
old work.

A staple intended for a single cable will not likely be secure enough if
made to hold two cables in the same way that a staple intended for use with
a flat cable (14/2 or 12/2) would not likely be secure enough if used on
a not-so-flat calbe (14/3 or 12/3).

Can you use a larger staple (like ones intended for xx/3 cables for holding
a pair of xx/2 cables? Theoretically, yes. I have done so often enough
without any issues from the inspector. However, I have heard of inspectors
who were picky about such things.

In other words, your mileage may vary.

Don't wait until inspection time, once you have pulled a permit, the
inspector becomes a source of "free" consulting. I quote "free" because
you have to pay for the permit, but inpectors are available (usually for
the first hour each morning) to take calls and answer questions. Ask
the question to the same person who will be doing the inspection and you
cannot go wrong.

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Posted by Cliff Hartle on June 25, 2006, 4:27 pm

>
> The box will hold the answer on the staples (listed for one or two)
> but it will really be a picky inspector who calls it.
> The other issue is "bundling" the cables. As long as you are really
> only doing 2 (4 current carrying wires) it is not an issue but when
> you start getting up around 4-5 (9 current carrying conductors) be
> sure you fan them out between support points so they are not bundled
> more than 24" at a time. That is one reason why you see those fans of
> cables stapled separately near the panel

I once was in a house where the owner ran all the electrical for an
addition. By trade he was a verizon linesman. Well he ran all the wires
around the room in one hole. All the wires were neatly bundled together
with cable ties every 6" or so. At one point he had about six cables all
bundled together very neatly. I don't know if he passed inspection or not.



Posted by Rudy on June 26, 2006, 3:20 am
> I can fit two cables in the same hole. Is this the right way to go,

Yes

> Same question with respect to stapling cables coming in and out of the
> boxes. Is it the norm to staple each cable separately to the stud, or
> to secure wires running in the same direction from the box with a
> single staple?

There are staples made for 2 cables "S-2". I was using them in my basement
yesterday.
If you already have a bunch for single wire, go with those, they re cheap



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