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Sealing SonoTube for use as an access port Bill Stock 08-27-2007
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Posted by Rudy on August 28, 2007, 1:10 am
> Any ideas on the best way to mummify my Tube?

Forget the sonotube and use a piece of 4" white plastic drain pipe. You
can probably find a free 4' scrap piece at a construction site like I did
for my water shut-off valve.

If you want to insulate inside the pipe once its in the ground..take one leg
of a pair of panty hose and stuff it with insulation and shove it into the
pipe..



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Posted by Harry K on August 28, 2007, 11:55 am
> I want to use a SonoTube as an access port for an underground valve. The
> valve will be about 4' under ground. I thought if I painted the ST and
> wrapped it in plastic it would hold up much better. It won't last a thousand
> years, but it should meet my needs. I'll insulate the Tube to prevent
> freezing.
>
> Any ideas on the best way to mummify my Tube?

As others have suggested, use plastic pipe. I used ABS though as it
has a much thicker wall and I think it is more sun resistant. It has
been in place now for around 20 years. A 5 or 6 ft section of even
large bore diameter will not be a high cost item.

Harry K


Posted by EXT on August 28, 2007, 6:58 pm

>> I want to use a SonoTube as an access port for an underground valve. The
>> valve will be about 4' under ground. I thought if I painted the ST and
>> wrapped it in plastic it would hold up much better. It won't last a
>> thousand
>> years, but it should meet my needs. I'll insulate the Tube to prevent
>> freezing.
>>
>> Any ideas on the best way to mummify my Tube?
>
> As others have suggested, use plastic pipe. I used ABS though as it
> has a much thicker wall and I think it is more sun resistant. It has
> been in place now for around 20 years. A 5 or 6 ft section of even
> large bore diameter will not be a high cost item.
>
> Harry K
If the OP lives near a housing development that is just starting there are
often pieces of plastic water or sewer main material laying around for the
taking, offcuts from the installation process. Makes good materials for your
type of use.



Posted by aemeijers on August 28, 2007, 7:33 pm

>
>>> I want to use a SonoTube as an access port for an underground valve. The
>>> valve will be about 4' under ground. I thought if I painted the ST and
>>> wrapped it in plastic it would hold up much better. It won't last a
>>> thousand
>>> years, but it should meet my needs. I'll insulate the Tube to prevent
>>> freezing.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on the best way to mummify my Tube?
>>
>> As others have suggested, use plastic pipe. I used ABS though as it
>> has a much thicker wall and I think it is more sun resistant. It has
>> been in place now for around 20 years. A 5 or 6 ft section of even
>> large bore diameter will not be a high cost item.
>>
>> Harry K
> If the OP lives near a housing development that is just starting there are
> often pieces of plastic water or sewer main material laying around for the
> taking, offcuts from the installation process. Makes good materials for
> your type of use.
Having grown up in the business, I gotta say it- <ASK> before you take.
Quite often what looks like scrap, isn't, and it is a major pain in the ass
to the crew (or the site go-fer, which was my job as a kid), to go round up
replacements for stuff that grew legs.

But as far as OP is concerned- a short piece of culvert pipe of correct
diameter, plastic or steel or concrete, makes a good access tube. Local
concrete products place has or can get them, in all flavors. (they don't
just carry stuff MADE of concrete, they carry whatever flatwork guys need.)

Note that you either need to pin the peices together, or have some sort of
slip-fit arrangement, to ensure things don't move around due to frost heave,
or the thing doesn't fill with mud in rainy season. Crushing from frost
heave or hydrostatic pressure would worry me with sonotube, even
waterproofed.

aem sends...



Posted by Al Bundy on August 28, 2007, 9:12 pm

>
>>
>>>> I want to use a SonoTube as an access port for an underground
>>>> valve. The valve will be about 4' under ground. I thought if I
>>>> painted the ST and wrapped it in plastic it would hold up much
>>>> better. It won't last a thousand
>>>> years, but it should meet my needs. I'll insulate the Tube to
>>>> prevent freezing.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on the best way to mummify my Tube?
>>>
>>> As others have suggested, use plastic pipe. I used ABS though as it
>>> has a much thicker wall and I think it is more sun resistant. It
>>> has been in place now for around 20 years. A 5 or 6 ft section of
>>> even large bore diameter will not be a high cost item.
>>>
>>> Harry K
>> If the OP lives near a housing development that is just starting
>> there are often pieces of plastic water or sewer main material laying
>> around for the taking, offcuts from the installation process. Makes
>> good materials for your type of use.
> Having grown up in the business, I gotta say it- <ASK> before you
> take. Quite often what looks like scrap, isn't, and it is a major pain
> in the ass to the crew (or the site go-fer, which was my job as a
> kid), to go round up replacements for stuff that grew legs.
>
> But as far as OP is concerned- a short piece of culvert pipe of
> correct diameter, plastic or steel or concrete, makes a good access
> tube. Local concrete products place has or can get them, in all
> flavors. (they don't just carry stuff MADE of concrete, they carry
> whatever flatwork guys need.)
>
> Note that you either need to pin the peices together, or have some
> sort of slip-fit arrangement, to ensure things don't move around due
> to frost heave, or the thing doesn't fill with mud in rainy season.
> Crushing from frost heave or hydrostatic pressure would worry me with
> sonotube, even waterproofed.
>
> aem sends...
>
>
>


> > Having grown up in the business, I gotta say it- <ASK> before you
> take.

If you didn't say it I would have! Last thing you want is getting
arrested for theft of construction materials. That's how it would read in
the "Day in Court" listings in the paper. They'll be no mention that you
were just dumpster divin'.

I've always asked and never been turned down. Last time the guy even said
thanks for asking.

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