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Septic solution for cottage/cabin Chris 02-21-2007
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Posted by Chris on February 21, 2007, 1:46 pm


I have a small cottage/cabin (26' x 24'), small budget, where living
for weekends and vacation, 2 adults. I did the construction myself
(extending a 10'x10' existing one).
There is not a septic installation; so far the toilet is outside, also
I made myself an outside shower.
There is not running water, only rain water or bring water from a
spring (when not raining). I am collecting water into a 250 gal water
tank.
I am thinking to have an inside toilet and a shower. I did prevue a
separate room for that. I would like to use these facilities during
the winter also, (ski season), when frequently -20 C.
What would be the solution to have an inside toilet and shower? There
is also a boiler for hot water.
Is a septic fosse a good solution if not having running water? Any
other solution?

Thank you,
Chris


Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on February 21, 2007, 2:25 pm


>I have a small cottage/cabin (26' x 24'), small budget, where living
> for weekends and vacation, 2 adults. I did the construction myself
> (extending a 10'x10' existing one).
> There is not a septic installation; so far the toilet is outside, also
> I made myself an outside shower.
> There is not running water, only rain water or bring water from a
> spring (when not raining). I am collecting water into a 250 gal water
> tank.
> I am thinking to have an inside toilet and a shower. I did prevue a
> separate room for that. I would like to use these facilities during
> the winter also, (ski season), when frequently -20 C.
> What would be the solution to have an inside toilet and shower? There
> is also a boiler for hot water.
> Is a septic fosse a good solution if not having running water? Any
> other solution?
>
> Thank you,
> Chris
>


What about a composting toilet? I've seen two that worked very badly, and
two that worked beautifully, so you'd need to do some research, obviously.
No water needed.



Posted by lp13-30 on February 21, 2007, 9:46 pm


The suggestion about truck stop showers brought back memories-- and a
laugh. Back in 1989 we had a hard freeze and my pipes were frozen solid.
A nearby truck stop advertised "Free showers with Diesel fillup", so I
took them up on their offer. Filled up my Isuzu Diesel car with about 8
gallons and got my shower. Larry


Posted by Red on February 21, 2007, 2:49 pm


> I have a small cottage/cabin (26' x 24'), small budget, where living
> for weekends and vacation, 2 adults. I did the construction myself
> (extending a 10'x10' existing one).
> There is not a septic installation; so far the toilet is outside, also
> I made myself an outside shower.
> There is not running water, only rain water or bring water from a
> spring (when not raining). I am collecting water into a 250 gal water
> tank.
> I am thinking to have an inside toilet and a shower. I did prevue a
> separate room for that. I would like to use these facilities during
> the winter also, (ski season), when frequently -20 C.
> What would be the solution to have an inside toilet and shower? There
> is also a boiler for hot water.
> Is a septic fosse a good solution if not having running water? Any
> other solution?
>
> Thank you,
> Chris

I have known of cases where infrequent usage such as yours was handled
by a couple of buried 55 gal drums instead of a septic tank. Just
keep the gray water (sinks & showers) drained to a separate source.
You should get a good response to this question at alt.survival.
-Red


Posted by on February 21, 2007, 3:06 pm


A question was posted on alternative waste disposal methods and to this
I say:

Composting toilets don't work well if your climate is cold and are
infrequently used. They need A bit of heat in order to keep them
activated.
In my opinion your best option is an Incinolet toilet (incinolet.com)
These toilets use electricity (110 or 220) to incinerate the solid waste
that you can than put in the compost pile or trash from time to time.
I intend on putting one in my basement as my sewer discharge is higher
than the basement floor and I don't care to mess around with pumps down
there.
The only problem is they are not cheap starting at $1600.00 for there
cabin size unit.
As to your grey water you might get by with A dry well but your local
building code dept. should be consulted on that.

Good Luck!
H.R.


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