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Set fence post in concrete, dirt, or gravel? Ook 09-01-2006
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Posted by Peter Bogiatzidis on September 2, 2006, 12:26 pm
Ook,

FWIW, on an old episode of This Old House they buried composite post
"anchors" in the ground, which in turn had a PVC sleeve inserted into them
along with a 1" diameter piece of rebar that was long enough to stick up
above ground level. Each wooden fence post had a hole bored into its end and
was placed over the top of the protruding rebar. This way the posts were
never in contact with the ground.

When I tried to find out further information about these composite post
"anchors", all that I could turn up was that Walpole Woodworkers had
something to do with them. Not much info on their website and I never did
get around to actually visiting one of their locations to see if these items
were available.

It seems like a viable system to me. If so, it may help put an end to the
constant debate of whether or not to use cement when installing fence posts.

Anyone else, have any info on these? Please post it here for all to share.
TIA. HTH.

Peter.

"Ook" <Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the
Don't send me any freakin' spam> wrote in message
>I know I'm beating a dead dog here, but I find myself unclear about the
>pros/cons of setting fence posts in dirt, gravel, or concrete. More
>specifically, I'm undecided about which way to go. I need some input from
>those who have done this. I'm mostly interested in what is strong and what
>will last the longest. I don't want to have to dig them all out 10 years
>from now and be stuck with these big concrete chunks.
>
> Dirt: easiest to do, may not be the strongest. It rains a lot here, 9
> months out of the year, so I'm concerned about the constant contact with
> wet soil.
>
> Gravel. Some recently suggested. Cheaper and easier then concrete, gravel
> drains water from post. Stronger then just dirt, post may last longer.
> Gravel drains water from post.
>
> Concrete. More work. Strongest. Post in contact with concrete may still
> rot out in 10 years. Difficult to replace.
>
>
>



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Posted by on September 2, 2006, 7:01 pm
Go with the concrete, but use a pole liner, a sleeve that the pole
slides into so the pole can be replaced. home depot actualy sells some
of these blocks already pored for certain size poles or with a clamp
for a 4x4 if you are using wood posts.

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Ook wrote:
> I know I'm beating a dead dog here, but I find myself unclear about the
> pros/cons of setting fence posts in dirt, gravel, or concrete. More
> specifically, I'm undecided about which way to go. I need some input from
> those who have done this. I'm mostly interested in what is strong and what
> will last the longest. I don't want to have to dig them all out 10 years
> from now and be stuck with these big concrete chunks.
>
> Dirt: easiest to do, may not be the strongest. It rains a lot here, 9 months
> out of the year, so I'm concerned about the constant contact with wet soil.
>
> Gravel. Some recently suggested. Cheaper and easier then concrete, gravel
> drains water from post. Stronger then just dirt, post may last longer.
> Gravel drains water from post.
>
> Concrete. More work. Strongest. Post in contact with concrete may still rot
> out in 10 years. Difficult to replace.


Posted by Tony Hwang on September 2, 2006, 8:17 pm
Ook wrote:

> I know I'm beating a dead dog here, but I find myself unclear about the
> pros/cons of setting fence posts in dirt, gravel, or concrete. More
> specifically, I'm undecided about which way to go. I need some input from
> those who have done this. I'm mostly interested in what is strong and what
> will last the longest. I don't want to have to dig them all out 10 years
> from now and be stuck with these big concrete chunks.
>
> Dirt: easiest to do, may not be the strongest. It rains a lot here, 9 months
> out of the year, so I'm concerned about the constant contact with wet soil.
>
> Gravel. Some recently suggested. Cheaper and easier then concrete, gravel
> drains water from post. Stronger then just dirt, post may last longer.
> Gravel drains water from post.
>
> Concrete. More work. Strongest. Post in contact with concrete may still rot
> out in 10 years. Difficult to replace.
>
>
>
Hi,
I only use cedar or treated wood post. Gravel at bottom, pack with dirt
and make a dome around post at the top. Lasts LONG time.

Posted by JWHB on September 3, 2006, 5:50 am

> Ook wrote:
>
>> I know I'm beating a dead dog here, but I find myself unclear about the
>> pros/cons of setting fence posts in dirt, gravel, or concrete. More
>> specifically, I'm undecided about which way to go. I need some input from
>> those who have done this. I'm mostly interested in what is strong and
>> what will last the longest. I don't want to have to dig them all out 10
>> years from now and be stuck with these big concrete chunks.
>>
>> Dirt: easiest to do, may not be the strongest. It rains a lot here, 9
>> months out of the year, so I'm concerned about the constant contact with
>> wet soil.
>>
>> Gravel. Some recently suggested. Cheaper and easier then concrete, gravel
>> drains water from post. Stronger then just dirt, post may last longer.
>> Gravel drains water from post.
>>
>> Concrete. More work. Strongest. Post in contact with concrete may still
>> rot out in 10 years. Difficult to replace.

> I only use cedar or treated wood post. Gravel at bottom, pack with dirt
> and make a dome around post at the top. Lasts LONG time.

what percentage of the post is in the soil? 25%, 30% ??



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