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Posted by jah213@gmail.com on November 3, 2006, 12:32 pm
Hi,
I seem to have a recurring, and puzzling, sewer problem. About 6 weeks
ago, I had tub drain gurgling for several days, then a backup when the
toilet was flushed. Sewer cleaner went thru the roof stack, said he
used 180 feet of cable, found roots, etc. All seemed well.
Three days ago, the gurgling started again. Definite smell of sewer
gas, but no backup. Got the sewer guys out again. They could not get
cable through from the roof (obstructed at about ground level). They
pulled the stool, 150 feet of cable, yada yada, all was well for a day.
Yesterday, more gurgling, this time in response to either toilet
flushing or kitchen sink emptying. LOUD, extended. Gurgled every time
either was drained, all day yesterday, all night, first thing this
morning. All drains seemed to be working fine.
Later this morning, I took a shower. No more gurgling upon flushing or
draining.
My theory: There is an obstruction somewhere around the vent (which
might account for why team #2 was unable to run cable via roof stack).
The drains hold enough water to keep the trap full for a day or two,
but flushing eventually empties the trap and gurgling starts.
Showering this morning refilled the drain, which refilled the trap.
At the risk of making a horrible pun, does this theory hold water? If
so, any suggestions for how to fix? If not, alternate theories?
Thanks in advance,
Jo Ann
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Posted by Lawrence on November 3, 2006, 1:12 pm
jah213@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I seem to have a recurring, and puzzling, sewer problem. About 6 weeks
> ago, I had tub drain gurgling for several days, then a backup when the
> toilet was flushed. Sewer cleaner went thru the roof stack, said he
> used 180 feet of cable, found roots, etc. All seemed well.
>
> Three days ago, the gurgling started again. Definite smell of sewer
> gas, but no backup. Got the sewer guys out again. They could not get
> cable through from the roof (obstructed at about ground level). They
> pulled the stool, 150 feet of cable, yada yada, all was well for a day.
>
> Yesterday, more gurgling, this time in response to either toilet
> flushing or kitchen sink emptying. LOUD, extended. Gurgled every time
> either was drained, all day yesterday, all night, first thing this
> morning. All drains seemed to be working fine.
>
> Later this morning, I took a shower. No more gurgling upon flushing or
> draining.
Since it is draining you do not have a problem. The question about the
location of the clog is an uneccesary one since it is draining. Some
plumbers have a small camera they put down the pipe if they need to see
where or what the clog is. In some cases the sewer pipe can be
collapsed due to tree roots or agressive snaking and has to be
replaced. this can mean digging up the yard.
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Posted by Craven Morehead on November 3, 2006, 2:45 pm
Lawrence is full of shit!
To say ".Since it is draining you do not have a problem. The question about
the location of the clog is an uneccesary one since it is draining." is an
assinine statement.
Of course you have a blockage. It may be further away than you expected and
that's why it takes a bit of water to fill, then back up. It would be a
surprise if those roots from a few weeks ago are the problem. I would not
rule out the vent pipe as an alternative. Keep looking, you'll find it.
Takes a bit of common sense.
>
> jah213@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I seem to have a recurring, and puzzling, sewer problem. About 6 weeks
>> ago, I had tub drain gurgling for several days, then a backup when the
>> toilet was flushed. Sewer cleaner went thru the roof stack, said he
>> used 180 feet of cable, found roots, etc. All seemed well.
>>
>> Three days ago, the gurgling started again. Definite smell of sewer
>> gas, but no backup. Got the sewer guys out again. They could not get
>> cable through from the roof (obstructed at about ground level). They
>> pulled the stool, 150 feet of cable, yada yada, all was well for a day.
>>
>> Yesterday, more gurgling, this time in response to either toilet
>> flushing or kitchen sink emptying. LOUD, extended. Gurgled every time
>> either was drained, all day yesterday, all night, first thing this
>> morning. All drains seemed to be working fine.
>>
>> Later this morning, I took a shower. No more gurgling upon flushing or
>> draining.
>
> Since it is draining you do not have a problem. The question about the
> location of the clog is an uneccesary one since it is draining. Some
> plumbers have a small camera they put down the pipe if they need to see
> where or what the clog is. In some cases the sewer pipe can be
> collapsed due to tree roots or agressive snaking and has to be
> replaced. this can mean digging up the yard.
>
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Posted by Malcolm Hoar on November 3, 2006, 3:21 pm
>To say ".Since it is draining you do not have a problem. The question about
>the location of the clog is an uneccesary one since it is draining." is an
>assinine statement.
>
>Of course you have a blockage. It may be further away than you expected and
>that's why it takes a bit of water to fill, then back up. It would be a
>surprise if those roots from a few weeks ago are the problem. I would not
>rule out the vent pipe as an alternative. Keep looking, you'll find it.
>Takes a bit of common sense.
So true. There's clearly evidence of a problem even though
the symptoms are not (yet) terribly severe.
If you wait until the symptoms get worse, the cost of the
final repairs is only likely to escalate. This is especially
true when water (or sewage) blockages/leaks are concerned.
Unless you can identify some other cause within the next
day or three, a camera inspection of your lines would be
a very prudent and sensible step to take.
Of course, if you really think it's probable that the
problem lies in the city/utility maintained section of
the lines, you might want to call them first. Some are
extremely good -- last time I had to do that, they fixed
the problem same day *and* cleared a secondary partial
blockage caused by roots in a line that was my responsibility.
For this, they didn't charge me a dime. YMMV.
I'd also talk to your immediate neighbors. Perhaps they
have observed similar symptoms and/or have some experience
with the local utility/agency responsible for the public
lines.
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Posted by jah213@gmail.com on November 3, 2006, 4:19 pm
Interesting that you should mention this. On my way home from the post
office this afternoon, I noticed that the nearest neighbor to the back
of my house has had some recent excavation from the front of his house
to the street; I would guess it was done within the past 2-3 days, as I
go past his corner fairly often. It looks VERY much like a sewer line
excavation to me. Think I will make a call over there this evening.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Jo Ann
> I'd also talk to your immediate neighbors. Perhaps they
> have observed similar symptoms and/or have some experience
> with the local utility/agency responsible for the public
> lines.
>
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> | Malcolm Hoar "The more I practice, the luckier I get". |
> | malch@malch.com Gary Player. |
> | http://www.malch.com/ Shpx gur PQN. |
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