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Shallow electrical box MiamiCuse 07-02-2008
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Posted by MiamiCuse on July 2, 2008, 8:27 pm
Hi, after my electrician wired my place there is one location I need to get
creative about.

It is a square metal box on the inside of a concrete block wall. This box
is the 3/4" deep shallow box with a normal mud ring. There is a 3/8"
furring strip then a 3/4" sheet rock so I cannot make it too deep. However
it has a three way wiring with another switch along with some wire that
needs to be connected there to serve as a junction box or else I need
another box somewhere else with a blank cover.

Looking at the wires there there is just no way I can fit two dimmers into
it, not even regular toggle switches. It is totally jam packed.

The electrician suggest I get a raised exposed box...this is not the garage
I cannot use that.

Is my only option to chip out the concrete wall and go with a deep box or
extension?

Thanks for any comments.

MC



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Posted by Tony Hwang on July 2, 2008, 8:44 pm
MiamiCuse wrote:
> Hi, after my electrician wired my place there is one location I need to get
> creative about.
>
> It is a square metal box on the inside of a concrete block wall. This box
> is the 3/4" deep shallow box with a normal mud ring. There is a 3/8"
> furring strip then a 3/4" sheet rock so I cannot make it too deep. However
> it has a three way wiring with another switch along with some wire that
> needs to be connected there to serve as a junction box or else I need
> another box somewhere else with a blank cover.
>
> Looking at the wires there there is just no way I can fit two dimmers into
> it, not even regular toggle switches. It is totally jam packed.
>
> The electrician suggest I get a raised exposed box...this is not the garage
> I cannot use that.
>
> Is my only option to chip out the concrete wall and go with a deep box or
> extension?
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> MC
>
>
Hi,
If I were you, 3 options. 1. chip out concrete(not easy), 2. Raised
box(does not look good), 3. Another shallow box next to it if you can
so all wiring in one box, whatever device you need in another
box(compromise).

Posted by MiamiCuse on July 2, 2008, 8:51 pm

> Hi, after my electrician wired my place there is one location I need to
> get creative about.
>
> It is a square metal box on the inside of a concrete block wall. This box
> is the 3/4" deep shallow box with a normal mud ring. There is a 3/8"
> furring strip then a 3/4" sheet rock so I cannot make it too deep.
> However it has a three way wiring with another switch along with some wire
> that needs to be connected there to serve as a junction box or else I need
> another box somewhere else with a blank cover.
>
> Looking at the wires there there is just no way I can fit two dimmers into
> it, not even regular toggle switches. It is totally jam packed.
>
> The electrician suggest I get a raised exposed box...this is not the
> garage I cannot use that.
>
> Is my only option to chip out the concrete wall and go with a deep box or
> extension?
>
> Thanks for any comments.
>
> MC
>

one additional piece of info...the width of the wall there is very limited,
like 4" total next to the door, so I cannot use a 3 gang box with a two
device trim either.



Posted by Tony Hwang on July 2, 2008, 8:59 pm
MiamiCuse wrote:
>> Hi, after my electrician wired my place there is one location I need to
>> get creative about.
>>
>> It is a square metal box on the inside of a concrete block wall. This box
>> is the 3/4" deep shallow box with a normal mud ring. There is a 3/8"
>> furring strip then a 3/4" sheet rock so I cannot make it too deep.
>> However it has a three way wiring with another switch along with some wire
>> that needs to be connected there to serve as a junction box or else I need
>> another box somewhere else with a blank cover.
>>
>> Looking at the wires there there is just no way I can fit two dimmers into
>> it, not even regular toggle switches. It is totally jam packed.
>>
>> The electrician suggest I get a raised exposed box...this is not the
>> garage I cannot use that.
>>
>> Is my only option to chip out the concrete wall and go with a deep box or
>> extension?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> MC
>>
>
> one additional piece of info...the width of the wall there is very limited,
> like 4" total next to the door, so I cannot use a 3 gang box with a two
> device trim either.
>
>
Hi,
Vertical mount then? I have vertically mounted boxes in my basement
bathroom.

Posted by metspitzer on July 2, 2008, 10:21 pm
wrote:

>
>> Hi, after my electrician wired my place there is one location I need to
>> get creative about.
>>
>> It is a square metal box on the inside of a concrete block wall. This box
>> is the 3/4" deep shallow box with a normal mud ring. There is a 3/8"
>> furring strip then a 3/4" sheet rock so I cannot make it too deep.
>> However it has a three way wiring with another switch along with some wire
>> that needs to be connected there to serve as a junction box or else I need
>> another box somewhere else with a blank cover.
>>
>> Looking at the wires there there is just no way I can fit two dimmers into
>> it, not even regular toggle switches. It is totally jam packed.
>>
>> The electrician suggest I get a raised exposed box...this is not the
>> garage I cannot use that.
>>
>> Is my only option to chip out the concrete wall and go with a deep box or
>> extension?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments.
>>
>> MC
>>
>
>one additional piece of info...the width of the wall there is very limited,
>like 4" total next to the door, so I cannot use a 3 gang box with a two
>device trim either.
>

The box can't be wider or protrude.

That leaves up, down or deeper.


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