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Shed Floor? Toller 05-12-2007
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Posted by Toller on May 12, 2007, 12:46 pm
I am building a 4x8 garden shed.
The plans call for a PT floor frame of 2x4s on 16" center, and a sheet of
plywood; all set on 4x4s. I don't have any PT 2x4s or plywood, but I have a
big pile of 5/4x6 cedar that I would like to get rid of.

Would it be reasonable to substitute the 5/4x6s run the 8' direction, and
then another layer of them run the 4' direction? I can throw in a few more
4x4s than the plan calls for, since I have plenty of those too.

Also, since the 5/4x6s have been stored outside and are pretty wet, could I
just put them up against each other, figuring they are much more likely to
get smaller when they dry out, than expand?



Posted by dpb on May 12, 2007, 1:52 pm
> I am building a 4x8 garden shed.
> The plans call for a PT floor frame of 2x4s on 16" center, and a sheet of
> plywood; all set on 4x4s. I don't have any PT 2x4s or plywood, but I have a
> big pile of 5/4x6 cedar that I would like to get rid of.
>
> Would it be reasonable to substitute the 5/4x6s run the 8' direction, and
> then another layer of them run the 4' direction? I can throw in a few more
> 4x4s than the plan calls for, since I have plenty of those too.
>
> Also, since the 5/4x6s have been stored outside and are pretty wet, could I
> just put them up against each other, figuring they are much more likely to
> get smaller when they dry out, than expand?

Any reason you couldn't just use the -x6's as floor joists? They
would be adequate long-ways unless you're planning on some real weight
but certainly ok on 16" center the short way -- or you could even go
to 12" center if have enough material. Only downside I can see would
be losing a couple inches of ceiling height, but if you haven't
already, you could surely arrange to lift the outside a little to
compensate if that were a major issue. That and then 5/4" flooring
would be far stronger than any store-bought or ready-built building
you'd likely find..


Posted by Toller on May 12, 2007, 2:07 pm

>> I am building a 4x8 garden shed.
>> The plans call for a PT floor frame of 2x4s on 16" center, and a sheet of
>> plywood; all set on 4x4s. I don't have any PT 2x4s or plywood, but I
>> have a
>> big pile of 5/4x6 cedar that I would like to get rid of.
>>
>> Would it be reasonable to substitute the 5/4x6s run the 8' direction, and
>> then another layer of them run the 4' direction? I can throw in a few
>> more
>> 4x4s than the plan calls for, since I have plenty of those too.
>>
>> Also, since the 5/4x6s have been stored outside and are pretty wet, could
>> I
>> just put them up against each other, figuring they are much more likely
>> to
>> get smaller when they dry out, than expand?
>
> Any reason you couldn't just use the -x6's as floor joists? They
> would be adequate long-ways unless you're planning on some real weight
> but certainly ok on 16" center the short way -- or you could even go
> to 12" center if have enough material. Only downside I can see would
> be losing a couple inches of ceiling height, but if you haven't
> already, you could surely arrange to lift the outside a little to
> compensate if that were a major issue. That and then 5/4" flooring
> would be far stronger than any store-bought or ready-built building
> you'd likely find..
>
I hadn't thought of that. Not quite as much wood to nail into though.



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 12, 2007, 3:19 pm
>
>
>
>
> >> I am building a 4x8 garden shed.
> >> The plans call for a PT floor frame of 2x4s on 16" center, and a sheet=
of
> >> plywood; all set on 4x4s. =A0I don't have any PT 2x4s or plywood, but I
> >> have a
> >> big pile of 5/4x6 cedar that I would like to get rid of.
>
> >> Would it be reasonable to substitute the 5/4x6s run the 8' direction, =
and
> >> then another layer of them run the 4' direction? =A0I can throw in a f=
ew
> >> more
> >> 4x4s than the plan calls for, since I have plenty of those too.
>
> >> Also, since the 5/4x6s have been stored outside and are pretty wet, co=
uld
> >> I
> >> just put them up against each other, figuring they are much more likely
> >> to
> >> get smaller when they dry out, than expand?
>
> > Any reason you couldn't just use the -x6's as floor joists? =A0They
> > would be adequate long-ways unless you're planning on some real weight
> > but certainly ok on 16" center the short way -- or you could even go
> > to 12" center if have enough material. =A0Only downside I can see would
> > be losing a couple inches of ceiling height, but if you haven't
> > already, you could surely arrange to lift the outside a little to
> > compensate if that were a major issue. =A0That and then 5/4" flooring
> > would be far stronger than any store-bought or ready-built building
> > you'd likely find..
>
> I hadn't thought of that. =A0Not quite as much wood to nail into though.-=
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>
> - Show quoted text -

as long as you dont mind animals living under your shed wood is fine.

me and a neighbor both built sheds, mine on concrete slab his PT wood
floor.

wood rot has attacked his PT wood floor, animals nest under it.

he is talking about replacing the floor completely


Posted by Toller on May 12, 2007, 4:55 pm

>
>
>
>
> >> I am building a 4x8 garden shed.
> >> The plans call for a PT floor frame of 2x4s on 16" center, and a sheet
> >> of
> >> plywood; all set on 4x4s. I don't have any PT 2x4s or plywood, but I
> >> have a
> >> big pile of 5/4x6 cedar that I would like to get rid of.
>
> >> Would it be reasonable to substitute the 5/4x6s run the 8' direction,
> >> and
> >> then another layer of them run the 4' direction? I can throw in a few
> >> more
> >> 4x4s than the plan calls for, since I have plenty of those too.
>
> >> Also, since the 5/4x6s have been stored outside and are pretty wet,
> >> could
> >> I
> >> just put them up against each other, figuring they are much more likely
> >> to
> >> get smaller when they dry out, than expand?
>
> > Any reason you couldn't just use the -x6's as floor joists? They
> > would be adequate long-ways unless you're planning on some real weight
> > but certainly ok on 16" center the short way -- or you could even go
> > to 12" center if have enough material. Only downside I can see would
> > be losing a couple inches of ceiling height, but if you haven't
> > already, you could surely arrange to lift the outside a little to
> > compensate if that were a major issue. That and then 5/4" flooring
> > would be far stronger than any store-bought or ready-built building
> > you'd likely find..
>
> I hadn't thought of that. Not quite as much wood to nail into though.-
> Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

^^as long as you dont mind animals living under your shed wood is fine.

You must not have a dog.
A rabbit was dumb enough to nest in my yard. Jessie was so excited when she
brought me one of them. I don't want to think about what happened to the
rest.





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