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Shower leak Sue 06-29-2006
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Posted by Sue on June 29, 2006, 6:39 pm
Hi-
Recently a guest got my hot water shower handle stuck in the on
position.
To solve the problem, I wrenched the handle off and shot the water off
using the long copper pipe sticking out.
The handle was stuck on there pretty good, despite the WD-40, so it
took some elbow grease to get it off.

So now what I have is a medium pipe that ends at the wall and a longer
copper pipe that comes out of it.

The handle used to be attached to the longer copper pipe and it seems
to control the flow of hot water.

So far so good.

However if I turn on either the hot or cold water, water comes shooting
out the from between the larger pipe that ends at the wall and the
smaller copper pipe.

There seems to be someblack grout in between the two, but I am not sure
if that is all that is meant to hold the water back, or if I have
damaged something else by taking the handle off.

Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Ryan


AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
Posted by cm on June 29, 2006, 7:58 pm
Yep,

Call a plumber or good handyman.

cm


> Hi-
> Recently a guest got my hot water shower handle stuck in the on
> position.
> To solve the problem, I wrenched the handle off and shot the water off
> using the long copper pipe sticking out.
> The handle was stuck on there pretty good, despite the WD-40, so it
> took some elbow grease to get it off.
>
> So now what I have is a medium pipe that ends at the wall and a longer
> copper pipe that comes out of it.
>
> The handle used to be attached to the longer copper pipe and it seems
> to control the flow of hot water.
>
> So far so good.
>
> However if I turn on either the hot or cold water, water comes shooting
> out the from between the larger pipe that ends at the wall and the
> smaller copper pipe.
>
> There seems to be someblack grout in between the two, but I am not sure
> if that is all that is meant to hold the water back, or if I have
> damaged something else by taking the handle off.
>
> Any ideas?
> Many thanks,
> Ryan
>



Posted by Jeff Wisnia on June 29, 2006, 8:15 pm
Sue wrote:
> Hi-
> Recently a guest got my hot water shower handle stuck in the on
> position.
> To solve the problem, I wrenched the handle off and shot the water off
> using the long copper pipe sticking out.
> The handle was stuck on there pretty good, despite the WD-40, so it
> took some elbow grease to get it off.
>
> So now what I have is a medium pipe that ends at the wall and a longer
> copper pipe that comes out of it.
>
> The handle used to be attached to the longer copper pipe and it seems
> to control the flow of hot water.
>
> So far so good.
>
> However if I turn on either the hot or cold water, water comes shooting
> out the from between the larger pipe that ends at the wall and the
> smaller copper pipe.
>
> There seems to be someblack grout in between the two, but I am not sure
> if that is all that is meant to hold the water back, or if I have
> damaged something else by taking the handle off.
>
> Any ideas?

Yes, if your post wasn't a troll, you're already in over your head.

Your poor description of the situation indicates that you don't really
have enough knowledge of how the water flows through your shower system
to be able to fix it yourself.

Call a pro and hope he doesn't use your clumsy handling of the situation
as an excuse to overcharge you.

You might be better off telling the pro it was "the guest" who messed it
up, he might take pity on you as being a victim of someone else's screwup.

Sorry I can't be more positive about your situation, but that's life.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

Posted by Sue on June 29, 2006, 9:12 pm

Jeff Wisnia wrote:
> Sue wrote:
> > Hi-
> > Recently a guest got my hot water shower handle stuck in the on
> > position.
> > To solve the problem, I wrenched the handle off and shot the water off
> > using the long copper pipe sticking out.
> > The handle was stuck on there pretty good, despite the WD-40, so it
> > took some elbow grease to get it off.
> >
> > So now what I have is a medium pipe that ends at the wall and a longer
> > copper pipe that comes out of it.
> >
> > The handle used to be attached to the longer copper pipe and it seems
> > to control the flow of hot water.
> >
> > So far so good.
> >
> > However if I turn on either the hot or cold water, water comes shooting
> > out the from between the larger pipe that ends at the wall and the
> > smaller copper pipe.
> >
> > There seems to be someblack grout in between the two, but I am not sure
> > if that is all that is meant to hold the water back, or if I have
> > damaged something else by taking the handle off.
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> Yes, if your post wasn't a troll, you're already in over your head.
>
> Your poor description of the situation indicates that you don't really
> have enough knowledge of how the water flows through your shower system
> to be able to fix it yourself.
>
> Call a pro and hope he doesn't use your clumsy handling of the situation
> as an excuse to overcharge you.
>
> You might be better off telling the pro it was "the guest" who messed it
> up, he might take pity on you as being a victim of someone else's screwup.
>
> Sorry I can't be more positive about your situation, but that's life.
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeffry Wisnia
> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
> "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

Oh, come on.

I'll admit I screwed it up, but I just bought the house and am new at
this.

You can not give me any guidance?
How complex can a water mixer be?


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on June 29, 2006, 9:37 pm
Sue wrote:

> Jeff Wisnia wrote:
>
>>Sue wrote:
>>
>>>Hi-
>>>Recently a guest got my hot water shower handle stuck in the on
>>>position.
>>>To solve the problem, I wrenched the handle off and shot the water off
>>>using the long copper pipe sticking out.
>>>The handle was stuck on there pretty good, despite the WD-40, so it
>>>took some elbow grease to get it off.
>>>
>>>So now what I have is a medium pipe that ends at the wall and a longer
>>>copper pipe that comes out of it.
>>>
>>>The handle used to be attached to the longer copper pipe and it seems
>>>to control the flow of hot water.
>>>
>>>So far so good.
>>>
>>>However if I turn on either the hot or cold water, water comes shooting
>>>out the from between the larger pipe that ends at the wall and the
>>>smaller copper pipe.
>>>
>>>There seems to be someblack grout in between the two, but I am not sure
>>>if that is all that is meant to hold the water back, or if I have
>>>damaged something else by taking the handle off.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Yes, if your post wasn't a troll, you're already in over your head.
>>
>>Your poor description of the situation indicates that you don't really
>>have enough knowledge of how the water flows through your shower system
>>to be able to fix it yourself.
>>
>>Call a pro and hope he doesn't use your clumsy handling of the situation
>>as an excuse to overcharge you.
>>
>>You might be better off telling the pro it was "the guest" who messed it
>>up, he might take pity on you as being a victim of someone else's screwup.
>>
>>Sorry I can't be more positive about your situation, but that's life.
>>
>>Jeff
>>
>>--
>>Jeffry Wisnia
>>(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
>>"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."
>
>
> Oh, come on.
>
> I'll admit I screwed it up, but I just bought the house and am new at
> this.
>
> You can not give me any guidance?
> How complex can a water mixer be?
>

Well, your first task is to determine the manufacturer of the item you
need to repair or replace.

You mentioned hot and cold faucets, so I take it they are still there
and functioning normally.

Unless I've misunderstood your description I believe the valve you call
a "water mixer" is what's generally called a "shower diverter valve",
one which causes the water to come out either from the tub spout or the
shower head.

If you could snap a photo of what's left of the valve, and maybe one of
the handle you say you "wrenched off" and then post a link to them, some
of the folks here may be able to identify the manufacturer and you could
take the photos to a well stocked plumbing supply house which and see if
they can sell you replacement parts.

Until we learn how little or how much damage your houseguest and/or you
may have done to that valve it'd be hard to tell you how difficult the
repair will be. If something is snapped off the valve body you'll be in
for ripping out tile or punching through the wall behind the plumbing to
be able to solder in a new diverter valve. (Hope not.)

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength."

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