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Sidewalk has sunk. Need to raise it 6 inches Sherman 07-22-2005
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Posted by Sherman on July 29, 2005, 6:34 pm


wrote:

>In alt.home.repair on 24 Jul 2005 07:49:29 -0700 "Harry K"
>
>>
>>
>>deans@wdeans.com wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> If it has really sunk 6" you might consider pouring another 4-6" of
>>> concrete on top of the existing sidewalk. This way you get a brand-new
>>> looking sidewalk a foot thick.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> William
>
>P&M
>
>>Very good idea. Probably a lot cheaper than any other fix. It doesn't
>>address the sinking problem but then I suspect that most of the
>>'sinking' is due to the ground building up over the years. Unlikely
>>that such a large section of 'crete' would sink evenly without serious
>>cracking and uneveness.
>
>FWIW, my stoop/aerie way has sunk 6 inches in 26 years without
>cracking. It's about 20 feet by 2 feet where it is a stoop, by 8 or 9
>feet where it is a "patio".
>
>Either that or the house has gone up 6 inches.
>
>>Harry K
>
>Actually the lowest 16 houses in my n'hood, and about the 20 lowest
>houses in the next n'hood, probably built by a different builder, all
>in a row close to the stream fwiw, have all had sinking stoops. Some
>have cracked. I can't even guess at what percentage.
>
>Still, I agree that his idea is a good one.
>
>Meirman

My peach tree had sunk over 12 inches. It caught so much water it
finally drowned.
The drive way and house remains level and only the sidewalk sank with
nary a crack. The expansion joints on the house and driveway acted
like hinges and let it sink without cracking.



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Posted by Harry K on July 29, 2005, 6:59 pm



Sherman wrote:
> wrote:
>
> >In alt.home.repair on 24 Jul 2005 07:49:29 -0700 "Harry K"
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> If it has really sunk 6" you might consider pouring another 4-6" of
> >>> concrete on top of the existing sidewalk. This way you get a brand-new
> >>> looking sidewalk a foot thick.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps,
> >>> William
> >
> >P&M
> >
> >>Very good idea. Probably a lot cheaper than any other fix. It doesn't
> >>address the sinking problem but then I suspect that most of the
> >>'sinking' is due to the ground building up over the years. Unlikely
> >>that such a large section of 'crete' would sink evenly without serious
> >>cracking and uneveness.
> >
> >FWIW, my stoop/aerie way has sunk 6 inches in 26 years without
> >cracking. It's about 20 feet by 2 feet where it is a stoop, by 8 or 9
> >feet where it is a "patio".
> >
> >Either that or the house has gone up 6 inches.
> >
> >>Harry K
> >
> >Actually the lowest 16 houses in my n'hood, and about the 20 lowest
> >houses in the next n'hood, probably built by a different builder, all
> >in a row close to the stream fwiw, have all had sinking stoops. Some
> >have cracked. I can't even guess at what percentage.
> >
> >Still, I agree that his idea is a good one.
> >
> >Meirman
>
> My peach tree had sunk over 12 inches. It caught so much water it
> finally drowned.
> The drive way and house remains level and only the sidewalk sank with
> nary a crack. The expansion joints on the house and driveway acted
> like hinges and let it sink without cracking.

Ah! I was picturing a level sinking. With that much sinkage, I would
suspect a sinkhole forming. I have never seen nor heard of a tree
sinking until now.

Harry K



Posted by meirman on July 30, 2005, 11:41 am


In alt.home.repair on 29 Jul 2005 18:59:26 -0700 "Harry K"

>
>Sherman wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In alt.home.repair on 24 Jul 2005 07:49:29 -0700 "Harry K"
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>deans@wdeans.com wrote:
>> >>> Greetings,
>> >>>
>> >>> If it has really sunk 6" you might consider pouring another 4-6" of
>> >>> concrete on top of the existing sidewalk. This way you get a brand-new
>> >>> looking sidewalk a foot thick.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hope this helps,
>> >>> William
>> >
>> >P&M
>> >
>> >>Very good idea. Probably a lot cheaper than any other fix. It doesn't
>> >>address the sinking problem but then I suspect that most of the
>> >>'sinking' is due to the ground building up over the years. Unlikely
>> >>that such a large section of 'crete' would sink evenly without serious
>> >>cracking and uneveness.
>> >
>> >FWIW, my stoop/aerie way has sunk 6 inches in 26 years without
>> >cracking. It's about 20 feet by 2 feet where it is a stoop, by 8 or 9
>> >feet where it is a "patio".
>> >
>> >Either that or the house has gone up 6 inches.
>> >
>> >>Harry K
>> >
>> >Actually the lowest 16 houses in my n'hood, and about the 20 lowest
>> >houses in the next n'hood, probably built by a different builder, all
>> >in a row close to the stream fwiw, have all had sinking stoops. Some
>> >have cracked. I can't even guess at what percentage.
>> >
>> >Still, I agree that his idea is a good one.
>> >
>> >Meirman
>>
>> My peach tree had sunk over 12 inches. It caught so much water it
>> finally drowned.
>> The drive way and house remains level and only the sidewalk sank with
>> nary a crack. The expansion joints on the house and driveway acted
>> like hinges and let it sink without cracking.

Expansion joints? where they joined the sidewalk, right?

>Ah! I was picturing a level sinking. With that much sinkage, I would
>suspect a sinkhole forming. I have never seen nor heard of a tree
>sinking until now.

Me neither.
>
>Harry K


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Posted by World Traveler on July 23, 2005, 12:04 am



>
> There is an L shaped cement sidewalk in front of my house that has
> sunk 6 inches in 20 years. It is 18 feet total lenght with the L at 9
> feet from the ends. No partitions at all.
>
> Anyway to lift it?
>
>
Before you spend much effort to lift the walk, you'd better check on why it
sank in the first place. If it's being undercut by waterflow from your roof
or some other hydrologic problem you'll need to solve that problem.

In my case, the house I moved into had a sidewalk that sloped the wrong way,
and also started to sink at one place. We briefly considered trying to
relevel everything, but decided to remove altogether and replace with paving
blocks. For not much more than the cost of fixing it we now have a much
better-looking walkway with inset garden beds. We're in the final steps of
completing the project and I'll post photos in a few days.

(Correcting the slope of the walk also fixed the erosion problem that had
caused the sidewalk to crack and sink) --

Regards --




Posted by on July 23, 2005, 5:40 am


Best comment yet.. I've seen a lot of folks keep fixing such
problems.. I live in the same house since 1965.. so I can observe
history.. rocks would help.. also beware of recent "renovations" in
storm drains.. some of those engineers don't really know your terrain
and design the drains contrary to nature.. one group found a stream,
so instead of dumping the water into the underground stream, they
decided to try to drain the stream.. uh oh.. drain a stream and
it..dyuh.. collapses..


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