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Posted by The Daring Dufas on November 18, 2009, 1:03 am
aemeijers wrote:
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> The Daring Dufas wrote:
>> aemeijers wrote:
>>> George wrote:
>>>> Jules wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:06 -0500, aemeijers wrote:
>>>>>> On a lot of stuff, other than lower assembly cost (and looking
>>>>>> Kewel and hi-tech), I gotta wonder why they went to electronic
>>>>>> controls. On some things, electro-mechanical makes a lot more
>>>>>> sense, and lasts longer.
>>>>> Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately the majority equate "electronic"
>>>>> with
>>>>> "better", so that's what the manufacturers give us.
>>>>> The clock gets thrown in because it costs them next to nothing to
>>>>> do so
>>>>> and gives them something else to put on the feature-list - and lots of
>>>>> folk buy based on features, even if they don't need 90% of them and
>>>>> the
>>>>> design is compromised as a result.
>>>>> Technically someone could make a coffee maker that lasts 20 years, is
>>>>> fully servicable, and doesn't cost the earth in parts. But where's the
>>>>> incentive to do that when they can just as easily market an inferior
>>>>> product with a shorter lifespan, safe in the knowledge that people
>>>>> will
>>>> But wally and friends have everyone programmed to think that cheap
>>>> prices are all that matters. Anyone who buys from wally/big box etc
>>>> has voted for what they have been told is important to them.
>>> Try buying a real telephone- single line, no answering machine, no
>>> caller ID, an actual handset that fits the head instead of some
>>> dainty nonsense designed by a stylist. Unless you delve into
>>> commercial sources or online, you can't. Retail, if they have corded
>>> phones at all, just has the disposable crap that isn't even heavy
>>> enough to stay on a table when you lean back in the chair while
>>> talking. I NEED a single-line corded phone with speaker and mute, for
>>> days I work from home. Can't find it in any stores around here.
>>> Hesitant to buy a pig in a poke online. Don't want anything that
>>> needs a wall plug or backup battery, don't need caller ID (which I
>>> refuse to pay extra for on principal) or speed-dial or anything like
>>> that. I have plenty of the old-time real WE phones for the other
>>> rooms, but need the speaker and mute for conference calls.
>>> --
>>> aem sends...
>> A lot of my work involves telecommunications and I would recommend
>> this particular phone to you:
>> http://www.phonemerchants.com/vo28onelicop.html
>> TDD
> Yeah, I saw that wandering around out there on the web sites. But who
> the hell is Vodavi? I could probably live with it, I guess, but I would
> prefer a real brand name. And no battery- 48 volts should be enough to
> stash a little away to keep the memory hot. But thanks for the
> real-world recommendation.
>
> Googles- a generic supplier since '83. LG is a current behind-the-scenes
> OEM for them. I guess that is long-term by today's standards. I miss
> WE.... :^(
>
> --
> aem sends...
Vodovi supplies a lot of business phone systems that you may
not come into contact with. Believe me, they supply a fine
product that's on par with many of the business phone systems
that are available. Of course, many parts may be identical to
those of other brand names. Sometimes a piece of phone equipment
may be internally identical with one from another manufacturer.
TDD
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on November 18, 2009, 6:53 am
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>online. Don't want anything that needs a wall plug or backup battery,
>don't need caller ID (which I refuse to pay extra for on principal) or
>speed-dial or anything like that. I have plenty of the old-time real WE
>phones for the other rooms, but need the speaker and mute for conference
>calls.
For any youngsters that aren't familiar with the WEs-- here's what
they look- and sound- like. ['splains why we 'dial' a number, and
what a phone 'ringing' means]
http://www.boldoldphones.com/ Jim
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 18, 2009, 7:24 am
Prinicpal: The pal of yours at the school office. Often has
a vice principal, and secretary.
Principle: How something operates. Or guiding factor in
your life. "I don't pay extra, on principle".
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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>online. Don't want anything that needs a wall plug or
>backup battery,
>don't need caller ID (which I refuse to pay extra for on
>principal) or
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Posted by HeyBub on November 18, 2009, 3:26 pm
Stormin Mormon wrote:
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> Prinicpal: The pal of yours at the school office. Often has
> a vice principal, and secretary.
> Principle: How something operates. Or guiding factor in
> your life. "I don't pay extra, on principle".
The "principal" is your "pal" (not really, but for the sake of remembering)
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on November 18, 2009, 6:28 pm
Echo! Echo!
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
Stormin Mormon wrote:
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> Prinicpal: The pal of yours at the school office. Often
> has
> a vice principal, and secretary.
> Principle: How something operates. Or guiding factor in
> your life. "I don't pay extra, on principle".
The "principal" is your "pal" (not really, but for the sake
of remembering)
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>> aemeijers wrote:
>>> George wrote:
>>>> Jules wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:36:06 -0500, aemeijers wrote:
>>>>>> On a lot of stuff, other than lower assembly cost (and looking
>>>>>> Kewel and hi-tech), I gotta wonder why they went to electronic
>>>>>> controls. On some things, electro-mechanical makes a lot more
>>>>>> sense, and lasts longer.
>>>>> Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately the majority equate "electronic"
>>>>> with
>>>>> "better", so that's what the manufacturers give us.
>>>>> The clock gets thrown in because it costs them next to nothing to
>>>>> do so
>>>>> and gives them something else to put on the feature-list - and lots of
>>>>> folk buy based on features, even if they don't need 90% of them and
>>>>> the
>>>>> design is compromised as a result.
>>>>> Technically someone could make a coffee maker that lasts 20 years, is
>>>>> fully servicable, and doesn't cost the earth in parts. But where's the
>>>>> incentive to do that when they can just as easily market an inferior
>>>>> product with a shorter lifespan, safe in the knowledge that people
>>>>> will
>>>> But wally and friends have everyone programmed to think that cheap
>>>> prices are all that matters. Anyone who buys from wally/big box etc
>>>> has voted for what they have been told is important to them.
>>> Try buying a real telephone- single line, no answering machine, no
>>> caller ID, an actual handset that fits the head instead of some
>>> dainty nonsense designed by a stylist. Unless you delve into
>>> commercial sources or online, you can't. Retail, if they have corded
>>> phones at all, just has the disposable crap that isn't even heavy
>>> enough to stay on a table when you lean back in the chair while
>>> talking. I NEED a single-line corded phone with speaker and mute, for
>>> days I work from home. Can't find it in any stores around here.
>>> Hesitant to buy a pig in a poke online. Don't want anything that
>>> needs a wall plug or backup battery, don't need caller ID (which I
>>> refuse to pay extra for on principal) or speed-dial or anything like
>>> that. I have plenty of the old-time real WE phones for the other
>>> rooms, but need the speaker and mute for conference calls.
>>> --
>>> aem sends...
>> A lot of my work involves telecommunications and I would recommend
>> this particular phone to you:
>> http://www.phonemerchants.com/vo28onelicop.html
>> TDD
> Yeah, I saw that wandering around out there on the web sites. But who
> the hell is Vodavi? I could probably live with it, I guess, but I would
> prefer a real brand name. And no battery- 48 volts should be enough to
> stash a little away to keep the memory hot. But thanks for the
> real-world recommendation.
>
> Googles- a generic supplier since '83. LG is a current behind-the-scenes
> OEM for them. I guess that is long-term by today's standards. I miss
> WE.... :^(
>
> --
> aem sends...