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Posted by Robert Green on October 4, 2009, 10:39 pm
> > I was at an elderly friend's house the other day when the smoke alarm
went
> > off. It was quite loud and I reacted instantly to the noise. My
friend,
> a
> > former Army marksman in his 70's, who's suffering from profound high
> > frequency hearing loss, heard nothing!!!
> > Then I started looking around for alarms that used lower frequency
> sounders
> > but the only thing I could find were specially converted smoke detectors
> > that cost $300!!!!
> Can you not find an optical alarm, that indicates by blinking
> a strobe light on/off slowly (at whatever frequency is likeliest
> to catch the attention of deaf people)?
> --
> Don Phillipson
I already bought him one of those for his phone, but he mostly doesn't see
it. After reading through some of the sites that readers suggested, it
seems he's not the only one who doesn't react to flashing lights. Some
figures suggest as few as 1/4 of the people using them reliably react to
light. Since posting my first question, I found an alarm that will suffice
that's got a low-frequency horn that sounds a little like a truck backing
up. Very audible.
--
Bobby G.
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Posted by David Combs on November 1, 2009, 9:26 pm
...
>light. Since posting my first question, I found an alarm that will suffice
>that's got a low-frequency horn that sounds a little like a truck backing
>up. Very audible.
>--
>Bobby G.
Great! Congratulations! May your old one live longer than any
of the rest of us!
NOW -- how about telling THE REST OF US what BRAND it is, WHERE you GOT
it, how much you PAID for it, etc.
If only one of those, how about the BRAND, the NAME of the thing?
Please.
David
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Posted by Stormin Mormon on October 3, 2009, 3:17 pm
I have the same problem with my amplified phone. It's a
trimline, the volume control on the handset. The ringer is
some high pitched chirp that I can't hear with my hearing
aids out. I put a splitter, and an old mechanical Ma Bell
phone, which I can hear sometimes.
I know of no low pitch smoke alarm, though that's much
needed.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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I was at an elderly friend's house the other day when the
smoke alarm went
off. It was quite loud and I reacted instantly to the
noise. My friend, a
former Army marksman in his 70's, who's suffering from
profound high
frequency hearing loss, heard nothing!!!
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Posted by Robert Green on October 4, 2009, 10:45 pm
> I have the same problem with my amplified phone. It's a
> trimline, the volume control on the handset. The ringer is
> some high pitched chirp that I can't hear with my hearing
> aids out. I put a splitter, and an old mechanical Ma Bell
> phone, which I can hear sometimes.
I gave him a flashing phone last Christmas and it's not very effective.
That's why I didn't want to go that route for a smoke detector. He has
plenty of hearing left, it's just all low frequency sounds. He's given up
on his hearing aid, too, because he can't stand the constant background din.
I've learned to make sure he can see my lips when I am talking because I
know he's doing a fair amount of lip reading. I do have some old Bell dial
phones around that I could give him because I believe he doesn't have a
good, solid mechanical phone that works through (frequent) blackouts. That
would kill two birds with one stone. Good idea, thanks!
--
Bobby G.
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Posted by Mark on October 3, 2009, 5:35 pm
>I was at an elderly friend's house the other day when the smoke alarm went
> off. It was quite loud and I reacted instantly to the noise. My friend,
> a
> former Army marksman in his 70's, who's suffering from profound high
> frequency hearing loss, heard nothing!!!
> Then I started looking around for alarms that used lower frequency
> sounders
> but the only thing I could find were specially converted smoke detectors
> that cost $300!!!!
> I'm wondering why COTS alarms operate at such a high sound frequency,
> especially when it's well known that older adults lose their high
> frequency
> hearing first. I have been thinking of just unsoldering the Sonalert
> sounders in low priced alarms and replacing them with lower frequency
> sounders, but that could compromise the detector's ability to sense smoke
> if
> the replacement sounder has sufficiently different electrical
> characteristics.
> Does anyone know of a *reasonably* priced smoke detector whose sounder is
> audible to people with high frequency hearing loss? I'd like to buy a
> couple of such detectors for him, but the price on the only unit I've
> found
> would bring the bill to over $1200 for four detectors, and that's just
> unreasonable. I know what goes into making a smoke detector and 10x the
> cost of the parts still wouldn't bring the price that high.
> The idea that smokes use sounders that can't be heard by a lot of elderly
> people seems pretty unreasonable to me as well.
> Surely someone out there makes a smoke detector or combo smoke/CO detector
> (even better) that makes a sound people with typical hearing loss could
> hear
> a little better.
> BTW, we can skip flashing light smoke detectors. BT, DT, GTS! He's got a
> phone ringer/flasher that he never hears or sees. The unit's flasher
> can't
> really be seen in daytime easily and the electronic ringer again uses a
> tone
> in the 5000Hz and above range and is inaudible to him. FWIW, based on
> some
> simple tests I did with CoolEdit, a PC program that allows you to create
> any
> audible tone, he can hear most stuff below 4000Hz. Yes he has a hearing
> aid
> but no, he does not sleep with it in.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> --
> Bobby G.
Our local tv station did a story a few years ago about small children not
waking to the loud hi-pitched alarms. They even did a test and showed
several small kids sleeping right thru an alarm right in their rooms. They
showed one that actually had a recorded voice of the child's mom yelling for
them to get up and get out of the house and kids seemed to hear and respond
to that. Here's a story on 'talking smoke detectors':
http://www.doityourself.com/stry/ara_talkingsmokealar
You can get more with a Google on 'talking smoke detectors'.
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