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Posted by on October 8, 2009, 9:39 pm
On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:41:06 -0400, "norminn@earthlink.net"
>Roger Shoaf wrote:
>>> "[FLORIDA] A large nest of carpenter ants near an electrical outlet
>> sparked
>>> a Daytona Beach house fire this morning that killed several cats
>> [nine]..."
>>> Thirty-six cats, however, were saved. No report on the ants.
>>
http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2009/10/nest-of-ants-near-outlet-starts-house-fire-that-kills-several-catsout-of-about-80-or-so.html
>>
>> If you read the original story they link to it says the owners did not have
>> fire insurance. Amazing that they could not afford insurance, but they
>> could afford to feed 80 cats.
>I suspect the issue was not affordability....a home with 80 cats and an
>ant nest large enough to even entertain it as a cause of the fire ...
>well, it isn't "home" as you and I know it :o) With all of that mess,
>it almost HAD to be falling down from termite damage or lack of
>maintenance. Well, mebbe the carpenter ants were of a much more social
>variety and went for a swim in salt water and then came back home, all
>holding hands to cause the conductivity/short? Hmmm...
>>
>> I think that when more than two cats are kept in a suburban home, the line
>> has been crossed and the slippery slope to cat lady land looms not too far
>> in the future.
>>
>>
It doesn't take long to accumulate a boat load of Florida carpenter
ants and they don't seem particularly interested in nesting in that
old, wet wood I always hear about. I have had them in the coffee
maker, a big diskette case the linen closet and in lots of electrical
boxes, probably what caused this problem,. They may move in with 1,000
eggs and pack it solid. They can do that overnight.
It is one of the first things you look for when you get GFCI tripping
problems.
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Posted by dgk on October 9, 2009, 8:19 am
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:49 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
>> "[FLORIDA] A large nest of carpenter ants near an electrical outlet
>sparked
>> a Daytona Beach house fire this morning that killed several cats
>[nine]..."
>> Thirty-six cats, however, were saved. No report on the ants.
>http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2009/10/nest-of-ants-near-outlet-starts-house-fire-that-kills-several-catsout-of-about-80-or-so.html
>If you read the original story they link to it says the owners did not have
>fire insurance. Amazing that they could not afford insurance, but they
>could afford to feed 80 cats.
>I think that when more than two cats are kept in a suburban home, the line
>has been crossed and the slippery slope to cat lady land looms not too far
>in the future.
Those folks are known as Collectors in the cat newsgroups. Heart is in
the right place but the brain isn't functioning correctly.
I've had two cats for 20 years or so (not the same ones - they tend to
die). The big problem is leaving out food for outdoor cats (we also
get them neutered). I took in a third cat two years ago when it was 8F
outside one morning.
Now I have another one that I'm feeding and he wants to come inside.
It isn't even cold yet. It's already dangerous in the house with three
cats; walking down the steps can be life-threatening with furballs
racing past your feet. The Significant Other says no more please. So
Scooter is unlikely to move in. But I can see how it it happens.
By the way, the one I took in is far and away the best hunter of the
group. Every other week or so she brings me one of those horrid water
bugs. I keep asking her to make sure they're dead before she brings
them into the bedroom but sometimes she still wants to play with them
and keeps them alive. I can really do without that.
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Posted by Ivan on October 9, 2009, 11:14 am
In my experience, 3.5 cats per human--maybe 3.5 per adult (never had
kids) is the limit. My girlfriend and I had 7 cats between us, no
problem, but when we split, she took 3 cats and I took 4. That was
too many for me so she took one of mine and that was too many for her.
Two cats is generally optimum, because they can play with each other
when you're not so inclined, and you can pet one with each hand when
you all cluster.
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 9, 2009, 3:18 pm
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:49 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
> >> "[FLORIDA] A large nest of carpenter ants near an electrical outlet
> >sparked
> >> a Daytona Beach house fire this morning that killed several cats
> >[nine]..."
> >> Thirty-six cats, however, were saved. No report on the ants.
> >http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2009/10/nest-of-ants-near-outlet-st...
> >If you read the original story they link to it says the owners did not h=
ave
> >fire insurance. =A0Amazing that they could not afford insurance, but the=
y
> >could afford to feed 80 cats.
> >I think that when more than two cats are kept in a suburban home, the li=
ne
> >has been crossed and the slippery slope to cat lady land looms not too f=
ar
> >in the future.
> Those folks are known as Collectors in the cat newsgroups. Heart is in
> the right place but the brain isn't functioning correctly.
> I've had two cats for 20 years or so (not the same ones - they tend to
> die). The big problem is leaving out food for outdoor cats (we also
> get them neutered). I took in a third cat two years ago when it was 8F
> outside one morning.
> Now I have another one that I'm feeding and he wants to come inside.
> It isn't even cold yet. It's already dangerous in the house with three
> cats; walking down the steps can be life-threatening with furballs
> racing past your feet. The Significant Other says no more please. So
> Scooter is unlikely to move in. But I can see how it it happens.
> By the way, the one I took in is far and away the best hunter of the
> group. Every other week or so she brings me one of those horrid water
> bugs. I keep asking her to make sure they're dead before she brings
> them into the bedroom but sometimes she still wants to play with them
> and keeps them alive. I can really do without that.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
re: I've had two cats for 20 years or so (not the same ones - they
tend to die).
I had two cats for 20 years or so - the same ones.
Brother and sister. Got them when they needed to be fed baby food
through an eye dropper every 4 hours for a week or so.
Female died at 19, male died at 20.
You know those curled up fake cats you can buy at giftshops? We saw
one on a weekend trip and I said to my wife "We might have one of
these when we get home."
She laughed, but sure enough, got home on Sunday night and found the
male curled up "comfortably" on the TV room floor, already stiffening
up. The new kitten came over and pawed at him...I wonder how many
times she tried to wake him up that weekend.
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Posted by dgk on October 13, 2009, 8:39 am
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 12:18:15 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:26:49 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
>> >> "[FLORIDA] A large nest of carpenter ants near an electrical outlet
>> >sparked
>> >> a Daytona Beach house fire this morning that killed several cats
>> >[nine]..."
>> >> Thirty-six cats, however, were saved. No report on the ants.
>> >http://blogs.tampabay.com/bizarre/2009/10/nest-of-ants-near-outlet-st...
>> >If you read the original story they link to it says the owners did not have
>> >fire insurance. Amazing that they could not afford insurance, but they
>> >could afford to feed 80 cats.
>> >I think that when more than two cats are kept in a suburban home, the line
>> >has been crossed and the slippery slope to cat lady land looms not too far
>> >in the future.
>> Those folks are known as Collectors in the cat newsgroups. Heart is in
>> the right place but the brain isn't functioning correctly.
>> I've had two cats for 20 years or so (not the same ones - they tend to
>> die). The big problem is leaving out food for outdoor cats (we also
>> get them neutered). I took in a third cat two years ago when it was 8F
>> outside one morning.
>> Now I have another one that I'm feeding and he wants to come inside.
>> It isn't even cold yet. It's already dangerous in the house with three
>> cats; walking down the steps can be life-threatening with furballs
>> racing past your feet. The Significant Other says no more please. So
>> Scooter is unlikely to move in. But I can see how it it happens.
>> By the way, the one I took in is far and away the best hunter of the
>> group. Every other week or so she brings me one of those horrid water
>> bugs. I keep asking her to make sure they're dead before she brings
>> them into the bedroom but sometimes she still wants to play with them
>> and keeps them alive. I can really do without that.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>re: I've had two cats for 20 years or so (not the same ones - they
>tend to die).
>I had two cats for 20 years or so - the same ones.
>Brother and sister. Got them when they needed to be fed baby food
>through an eye dropper every 4 hours for a week or so.
>Female died at 19, male died at 20.
>You know those curled up fake cats you can buy at giftshops? We saw
>one on a weekend trip and I said to my wife "We might have one of
>these when we get home."
>She laughed, but sure enough, got home on Sunday night and found the
>male curled up "comfortably" on the TV room floor, already stiffening
>up. The new kitten came over and pawed at him...I wonder how many
>times she tried to wake him up that weekend.
Ah, I had no idea what you were talking about so I looked and found
this:
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2006/10/furreal_cats_ar.html
That's what you mean? One of my cats is very close to that ideal. He
must be part Maine Coon or something because he's this big beautiful
long haired bag of mush.
Ah, so 3.5 per human is ok? The problem is that they get expensive -
not to feed really but just regular vet care and of couse when they
get sick. I just spent over $2000 for one of the furballs.
But they do defend the house against water bugs.
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