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Squeaks in subfloor jb 04-13-2008
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Posted by jb on April 13, 2008, 1:49 pm
My 20 year old house is getting new rugs. Before the installers come in,
I'm cutting out sections of old carpet where squeaks have developed. I
have taken two approaches. first, ball-peening the old nails back in
snugly and then screwing down adjacent to the old screws with new
flooring screws. My question, is this going to an extreme? Can I
eliminate the screws and just make sure to sink the existing nails into
the subfloor? I do want to make sure that we don't have any squeaks
develop in the next few years. Thanks for your help.

Posted by professorpaul on April 13, 2008, 2:19 pm
I don't think you are out of order. Last time I dealt with this was a
summer vacation house where I had problems with the kitchen floor. I
used rosin coated ring nails before I replaced the tiles, having
pulled up the old ones, put down 3/16" Luan sheet, leveled cracks,
etc. I used leveler over the heads of the nails, as I wanted a smooth
surface, and no "print through."

Posted by gpsman on April 13, 2008, 2:39 pm
> Can I
> eliminate the screws and just make sure to sink the existing nails into
> the subfloor?

IME, a loose nail can be counted on the second time maybe 5 times in
100. I'd pull it and replace with something larger and more reliable,
then nail adjacent if it appeared like a good idea.

I guess they screw down sub-floors these days but when I was a kid we
would not because 1) we never thunk of it, and 2) based on the
principle that nails will bend and still hold, while screws break and
let loose.

Probably not that critical, either way, but you certainly don't seem
to me to be going overboard.
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- gpsman

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on April 13, 2008, 2:57 pm

> My question, is this going to an extreme? Can I eliminate the screws and
> just make sure to sink the existing nails into the subfloor? I do want to
> make sure that we don't have any squeaks develop in the next few years.
> Thanks for your help.

Nail popped once, it will pop again. Use the screws and do the job right so
it only has to be done one time. Add some screws in other places for
insurance too. .



Posted by Bob M. on April 13, 2008, 7:15 pm
> My 20 year old house is getting new rugs. Before the installers come in,
> I'm cutting out sections of old carpet where squeaks have developed. I
> have taken two approaches. first, ball-peening the old nails back in
> snugly and then screwing down adjacent to the old screws with new flooring
> screws. My question, is this going to an extreme? Can I eliminate the
> screws and just make sure to sink the existing nails into the subfloor? I
> do want to make sure that we don't have any squeaks develop in the next
> few years. Thanks for your help.



If you can, and if it's still squeaking, try inserting some screws up from
the bottom.


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