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Staining a pine floor Amateur 01-04-2007
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Posted by on January 5, 2007, 6:41 am


You can do that, but now the stain is contained within the
polyeurethane (not within the wood). The main problem is when the
floor is scratched, the whitish pine floor will show through.

The proper way is to stain the wood, then clear coat to protect it.
When the clear coat is scratched, it is only the clear coat that is
scratched, and it will age better.

The contractor won't care, because he's long gone.

good luck,
tim1198

Amateur wrote:
> A floor refinishing company has told me they can stain our pine floors by
> mixing one or two small cans of minwax stain with the Ace polyurethane
> they use and apply both things together at once. I was under the
> impression that you'd have to stain the floor first and then later apply
> the polyurethane to seal it... Is the method they are proposing to do
> really viable? Also, how many coats of polyurethane would be recommended
> for pine floors?
>
> RL


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Posted by Father Haskell on January 5, 2007, 4:14 pm



tim1198@gmail.com wrote:
> You can do that, but now the stain is contained within the
> polyeurethane (not within the wood). The main problem is when the
> floor is scratched, the whitish pine floor will show through.
>
> The proper way is to stain the wood, then clear coat to protect it.
> When the clear coat is scratched, it is only the clear coat that is
> scratched, and it will age better.

Even better is to forego stain, and let the wood age to color.

> The contractor won't care, because he's long gone.
>
> good luck,
> tim1198
>
> Amateur wrote:
> > A floor refinishing company has told me they can stain our pine floors by
> > mixing one or two small cans of minwax stain with the Ace polyurethane
> > they use and apply both things together at once. I was under the
> > impression that you'd have to stain the floor first and then later apply
> > the polyurethane to seal it... Is the method they are proposing to do
> > really viable? Also, how many coats of polyurethane would be recommended
> > for pine floors?
> >
> > RL


Posted by Norminn on January 5, 2007, 4:25 pm


Amateur wrote:
> A floor refinishing company has told me they can stain our pine floors by
> mixing one or two small cans of minwax stain with the Ace polyurethane
> they use and apply both things together at once. I was under the
> impression that you'd have to stain the floor first and then later apply
> the polyurethane to seal it... Is the method they are proposing to do
> really viable? Also, how many coats of polyurethane would be recommended
> for pine floors?
>
> RL

There may be method to their madness, as pine is soft and can absorb
stain in inconsistent manner. Is this a new floor, never finished? Old
floor with old finish on it? Old floor, stripped?

The prettiest finish I have ever seen on pine was woodwork with only
sanding sealer used on it. When I finished some new pine furniture, I
made my own stain; artist oil colors in very dilute ms, oil and varnish
mixture. Let it dry and put clear varnish over it. Chose color that
would help counteract natural yellowing of pine as it ages. It worked.

If on bare wood, some of the finish would undoubtedly sink. I would get
more particulars from your floor company and ask to see their work.

Posted by Amateur on January 5, 2007, 9:45 pm


We've been told by staff at both Lowes and the Do-It Center that minwax
polyshades is not made for use on floors and wouldn't be durable enough.
They recommended minwax "Prestain" as a first coat on the bare wood to
ensure more even coloration in the final result. It is supposed to harden
the soft areas of the pine, in a sense, so that they don't absorb so much
more of the stain. That's the route we're going to try, anyway. Thanks
for your input, everyone.
RL

RL

Posted by on January 6, 2007, 5:07 am


Visit www.refinishwizard.com forum and ask questions about your
concerns. Refinishing furniture often gets into stripping old finish,
sanding and applying a colored finish then several clear top coats to
protect the colored layer(s) from wear. Lots of different methods and
materials for coloring the finish. I use TransTint dyes from
www.homesteadfinishing.com that can be mixed with several different
finishes. Visit there and search for TransTint for more info. A
color chart is also available for viewing.

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 20:45:02 -0600, "Amateur"

>We've been told by staff at both Lowes and the Do-It Center that minwax
>polyshades is not made for use on floors and wouldn't be durable enough.
>They recommended minwax "Prestain" as a first coat on the bare wood to
>ensure more even coloration in the final result. It is supposed to harden
>the soft areas of the pine, in a sense, so that they don't absorb so much
>more of the stain. That's the route we're going to try, anyway. Thanks
>for your input, everyone.
>RL
>
>RL

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