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Steel wire for electrical. deans@wdeans.com 08-07-2005
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Posted by deans@wdeans.com on August 7, 2005, 9:58 am


Greetings,

I have previously used small wire for doorbells, intercoms, security
systems, etc. and have experienced some degree of wire damage at
tenants' hands simply due to the physical strength of the wire. I
could switch to romex but I don't really want to pay for it and fear it
might confuse someone into combining a high and low voltage system.
Where can I get solid ~12 AWG insulated steel wire? I remember being
able to purchase a 1 mile spool of 12.5 AWG galvanized steel wire for
electrical fences for under $50. What I want probably weighs too much
to economically ship off the Internet. Where can I find it locally at
a reasonable price and if nowhere then perhaps if someone could refer
me to a cheap Internet sight?

Thank you for your time,
William

PS: Is there some reason why this is a bad idea?



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Posted by DanG on August 7, 2005, 1:40 pm



I would not run steel wire. There are many stranded wire
confightations for low volt wiring. I suspect you only need 2
wires, so simple 18 AWG twisted pair should be more than adequate
for your needs. You can get heavier gauge, but conduit or "smurf
tube" may be better protection of the low volt wiring.

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> Greetings,
>
> I have previously used small wire for doorbells, intercoms,
> security
> systems, etc. and have experienced some degree of wire damage at
> tenants' hands simply due to the physical strength of the wire.
> I
> could switch to romex but I don't really want to pay for it and
> fear it
> might confuse someone into combining a high and low voltage
> system.
> Where can I get solid ~12 AWG insulated steel wire? I remember
> being
> able to purchase a 1 mile spool of 12.5 AWG galvanized steel
> wire for
> electrical fences for under $50. What I want probably weighs
> too much
> to economically ship off the Internet. Where can I find it
> locally at
> a reasonable price and if nowhere then perhaps if someone could
> refer
> me to a cheap Internet sight?
>
> Thank you for your time,
> William
>
> PS: Is there some reason why this is a bad idea?
>




Posted by Nick Hull on August 7, 2005, 11:47 pm



> Greetings,
>
> I have previously used small wire for doorbells, intercoms, security
> systems, etc. and have experienced some degree of wire damage at
> tenants' hands simply due to the physical strength of the wire. I

Not 12awg but the telephone co runs lots of copper flashed steel wire in
outdoor runs. Tough stuff, and the linemen will usually give you the
stuff they take down since you obviously only need short pieces.

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Posted by deans@wdeans.com on August 8, 2005, 11:48 am


Greetings,

Thank you all very much for your replies. I have decided to just use
12 awg copper because I already stock it for use with EMT/RMT until I
luck upon a source for insulated steel wire. I see linemen from time
to time and I will ask about the copper flashed steel the next time I
see them.

Thanks again,
William



Posted by Joseph Meehan on August 8, 2005, 11:51 am


deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have previously used small wire for doorbells, intercoms, security
> systems, etc. and have experienced some degree of wire damage at
> tenants' hands simply due to the physical strength of the wire. I
> could switch to romex but I don't really want to pay for it and fear
> it might confuse someone into combining a high and low voltage system.
> Where can I get solid ~12 AWG insulated steel wire? I remember being
> able to purchase a 1 mile spool of 12.5 AWG galvanized steel wire for
> electrical fences for under $50. What I want probably weighs too much
> to economically ship off the Internet. Where can I find it locally at
> a reasonable price and if nowhere then perhaps if someone could refer
> me to a cheap Internet sight?
>
> Thank you for your time,
> William
>
> PS: Is there some reason why this is a bad idea?

Run one steel wire for strength, but not powered and run the copper
wound around the steel. I don't think you would be happy with using steel
as a conductor.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit




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