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Stepping off a ladder onto the roof Eigenvector 11-05-2006
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Posted by on November 5, 2006, 7:01 pm



>
>>I dont care for heights either. My other home had a spot where the roof
>> came together
>>
>> Kinda of a L shape, I would go up there it still bothered me.
>>
>> I can stand on a ladder and do stuff pretty good........
>>
>> but climbing on roof is tough
>>
>
> You know I could do that, put the ladder in the corner of the roofline,
> that way I could step off sideways.
>
> The biggest problem I had, and I mentioned this to the first poster, I was
> using a borrowed ladder, a ladder that was rated for 200 lbs and I am NOT
> 200 lbs, plus the thing is like cooked spaghetti in that it wobbles all
> around. So maybe just using a better ladder would be to my benefit. I
> gotta get those damn gutters cleaned or I won't ever fix that water
> problem...
Rueful Chuckle- I resemble that remark. I'm fat enough that class 1a is the
only thing I will buy or use more than 3 feet off the ground. Sams had a
good price on 24 foot, 50 bucks cheaper than the other place had 20 foot. 20
foot would be a lot easier to carry and spot, on this tall 1-story. Buy a
decent ladder, or hire a service to clean the gutters. Stuff that can kill
you, or take a long annoying time to heal up from, is NOT the place to cut
corners.

aem sends....



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Posted by z on November 6, 2006, 3:28 pm



aemeijers@att.net wrote:
> >
> >>I dont care for heights either. My other home had a spot where the roof
> >> came together
> >>
> >> Kinda of a L shape, I would go up there it still bothered me.
> >>
> >> I can stand on a ladder and do stuff pretty good........
> >>
> >> but climbing on roof is tough
> >>
> >
> > You know I could do that, put the ladder in the corner of the roofline,
> > that way I could step off sideways.
> >
> > The biggest problem I had, and I mentioned this to the first poster, I was
> > using a borrowed ladder, a ladder that was rated for 200 lbs and I am NOT
> > 200 lbs, plus the thing is like cooked spaghetti in that it wobbles all
> > around. So maybe just using a better ladder would be to my benefit. I
> > gotta get those damn gutters cleaned or I won't ever fix that water
> > problem...
> Rueful Chuckle- I resemble that remark. I'm fat enough that class 1a is the
> only thing I will buy or use more than 3 feet off the ground. Sams had a
> good price on 24 foot, 50 bucks cheaper than the other place had 20 foot. 20
> foot would be a lot easier to carry and spot, on this tall 1-story. Buy a
> decent ladder, or hire a service to clean the gutters. Stuff that can kill
> you, or take a long annoying time to heal up from, is NOT the place to cut
> corners.
>
> aem sends....

Consumer Reports did a thing on ladders recently, kind of an
eye-opener. They don't have the safety margin you'd expect from other
semi-regulated products. As I always suspected, if you weigh 200 lbs
and you're on a 200 lb ladder, a good thump with your foot will buckle
some of them. Their advice was basically to get the highest rated one
you can find, no matter what you weigh.


Posted by mm on November 8, 2006, 2:21 pm



>

>
>Consumer Reports did a thing on ladders recently, kind of an
>eye-opener. They don't have the safety margin you'd expect from other
>semi-regulated products. As I always suspected, if you weigh 200 lbs

I suspected otherwise. I thought if it said 200, you could be 275!
Thanks for letting me know. I really mean that.

People may not like my remedy, but I went from 240 to 210 before I
borrowed the ladder. At 240, even if the ladder held, I would have
been hard to get myself up and down. I hit 184 this morning, and
have until February 1 or April 1 to get to 160. Then the hard part
comes which is not putting it on again. Even 184 (I'm 5'8" and 59
years old) is wonderful though. I have a little pot belly, but I feel
young again.

>and you're on a 200 lb ladder, a good thump with your foot will buckle
>some of them. Their advice was basically to get the highest rated one
>you can find, no matter what you weigh.

Like you, I borrowed mine. I have nowhere indoors to store any ladder
over 7 foot. But I have decided that teenagers don't steal ladders
because they are only useful for work. Adults don't steal ladders
because they are hard to fence. Only people with houses would want to
steal a ladder, and none of my neighbors are (that kind of?) thief.

It does't look good underneath my backyard deck, but not so bad
either. And if it is stolen I will give my friend the choice of my
buying him a new one of the same brand, or my giving him the full
price of a new one. With friends, I don't believe in this
"depreciation" stuff. Even with strangers I don't think it is always
the right thing, but that's more complicated.

Posted by on November 8, 2006, 2:36 pm



>
>>
>
>>
>>Consumer Reports did a thing on ladders recently, kind of an
>>eye-opener. They don't have the safety margin you'd expect from other
>>semi-regulated products. As I always suspected, if you weigh 200 lbs
>
>I suspected otherwise. I thought if it said 200, you could be 275!
>Thanks for letting me know. I really mean that.
>
JLT 22' is what I own. I consider it the best ladder on the planet.
I weight about 290 and this is the only step ladder I'll use..It is like
standing on a rock. There is absolutely no flex in this ladder.

http://www.jawsladders.com/whyjaws.html

I have the leg extender and a platform for tools, paint cans, etc.

Posted by RicodJour on November 8, 2006, 2:56 pm


bobjones@yo.house wrote:
>
> JLT 22' is what I own. I consider it the best ladder on the planet.
> I weight about 290 and this is the only step ladder I'll use..It is like
> standing on a rock. There is absolutely no flex in this ladder.
>
> http://www.jawsladders.com/whyjaws.html
>
> I have the leg extender and a platform for tools, paint cans, etc.

I checked out the web site and don't see any appreciable differences
between that and the Little Giant ladder. The FORTY interlocking teeth
spiel is just that, a spiel. The odds of the steel pins that lock the
Little Giant shearing off are so remote it's not worth mentioning. The
different mechanisms, turn knobs vs. spring loaded pins, would seem to
be a trade off. Pins are marginally faster to lock. Jaws have more
positions. What are the benefits of the added positions? Where, for
instance, would you need a ladder that locks at say a 90 degree angle?

I also don't like their logic on the standing platform. Unless you're
in the habit of putting the platform on the very bottom rung (why would
you even bother breaking out such a serious ladder if you only have to
get a foot off of the ground?), the load applied to either platform
configuration will be inside of the legs and won't affect stability.
The advantage to the Little Giant platform is that the upper rung is
not in the way of your shins. The advantage to the Jaws platform is
that it is not in your way as you climb up and down the ladder.

The ladder is priced higher than the Little Giant, but I don't see a
major difference. I assume, due to your conviction of the superiority
of the Jaws, that you've been on a Little Giant as well. What are the
differences in use?

R


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