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Stupid Trees businessman 06-23-2007
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Posted by on June 23, 2007, 7:43 am
This is probably a little off topic, but I have these box elder trees
where I live. They are the stupidest trees. A strong wind comes
along, they bend over till the branches touch the ground and they stay
that way until I remove them. They dont break, they just tip over.
What the heck is the deal with these trees?

Where I used to live, we had hardwoods and conifers. None of them
ever did this. Rarely did they break, but if they did, there was an
actual break, normally a branch. We just had some high winds, and I
found several box elders that fell. One fell on my garage roof. No
damage to the roof, just the branches fell on it. The good thing
these are not heavy trees and generally bust off or do this stupid tip
over nonsense long before they get more than 10 inches of trunk. I
have another laying against my barn, and two more that are laying on
my livestock fences. I guess this is one reason that everyone around
here hates them. They are junky trees, make poor firewood, and have
little other use. When they are sturdy, they make good shade trees,
but they will just suddenly tip over for no reason, and they stay that
way. Why do they do this? They are not broke, but the trunk twists.
Is the wood just that weak, or is there some other reason that is not
obvious?

I should mention that the one that fell on the garage actually broke.
The 7 inch trunk just split and the tree was alive. At least they are
easy to saw up. Even a hand bow saw will cut them quickly.
They sure are irritating though.


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on June 23, 2007, 9:20 am
On Jun 23, 7:43?am, business...@nomail.com wrote:
> This is probably a little off topic, but I have these box elder trees
> where I live. They are the stupidest trees. A strong wind comes
> along, they bend over till the branches touch the ground and they stay
> that way until I remove them. They dont break, they just tip over.
> What the heck is the deal with these trees?
>
> Where I used to live, we had hardwoods and conifers. None of them
> ever did this. Rarely did they break, but if they did, there was an
> actual break, normally a branch. We just had some high winds, and I
> found several box elders that fell. One fell on my garage roof. No
> damage to the roof, just the branches fell on it. The good thing
> these are not heavy trees and generally bust off or do this stupid tip
> over nonsense long before they get more than 10 inches of trunk. I
> have another laying against my barn, and two more that are laying on
> my livestock fences. I guess this is one reason that everyone around
> here hates them. They are junky trees, make poor firewood, and have
> little other use. When they are sturdy, they make good shade trees,
> but they will just suddenly tip over for no reason, and they stay that
> way. Why do they do this? They are not broke, but the trunk twists.
> Is the wood just that weak, or is there some other reason that is not
> obvious?
>
> I should mention that the one that fell on the garage actually broke.
> The 7 inch trunk just split and the tree was alive. At least they are
> easy to saw up. Even a hand bow saw will cut them quickly.
> They sure are irritating though.

weak trees, notice they arent heavy, by your report. heavier trees are
stronger.

just dont plant any new ones, or at least not where they can cause
grief if they fall over.

and start a replacement program, replace every tree that falls or you
cut down cause its a possible future hazard with something more durable


Posted by dpb on June 23, 2007, 9:34 am
businessman@nomail.com wrote:
> ...I have these box elder trees... A strong wind comes
> along, they bend over till the branches touch the ground and they stay
> that way until I remove them. They dont break, they just tip over.
> What the heck is the deal with these trees?
...

They are what they are...

Not all people (or cattle for that matter) grow up to be the same...

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Posted by enigma on June 23, 2007, 11:03 am
businessman@nomail.com wrote in

> This is probably a little off topic, but I have these box
> elder trees where I live. They are the stupidest trees. A
> strong wind comes along, they bend over till the branches
> touch the ground and they stay that way until I remove
> them. They dont break, they just tip over. What the heck
> is the deal with these trees?

Boxelder is native to portions of the southern tier of NY and
Susquehana Valley, but has become more broadly established
throughout many parts of the state. Boxelder grows commonly
along the banks of streams and rivers, and may occur as a
weedy species in urban areas where its seeds are able to
germinate. Boxelder has a soft wood that has no commercial
value, but is important for wildlife and the stabilization of
stream banks where it grows. Boxelder is not recommended for
horticultural plantings.

Boxelder is ok for carving (whittling), but it's not a
landscape or lumber tree. you can use it for syrup, but it's
not as good as sugar or red maple.
lee

Posted by EXT on June 23, 2007, 12:44 pm
Box elder trees grow in a much larger area than you indicated. Here they are
known as Manitoba maple trees. There are a bunch growing around here also,
in Southern Ontario. I have never seen the problems you are experiencing,
must be the generic stock you have. However they are weak and drop branches
constantly but they can give a quick ground cover especially in low, wet
lands.

> businessman@nomail.com wrote in
>
>> This is probably a little off topic, but I have these box
>> elder trees where I live. They are the stupidest trees. A
>> strong wind comes along, they bend over till the branches
>> touch the ground and they stay that way until I remove
>> them. They dont break, they just tip over. What the heck
>> is the deal with these trees?
>
> Boxelder is native to portions of the southern tier of NY and
> Susquehana Valley, but has become more broadly established
> throughout many parts of the state. Boxelder grows commonly
> along the banks of streams and rivers, and may occur as a
> weedy species in urban areas where its seeds are able to
> germinate. Boxelder has a soft wood that has no commercial
> value, but is important for wildlife and the stabilization of
> stream banks where it grows. Boxelder is not recommended for
> horticultural plantings.
>
> Boxelder is ok for carving (whittling), but it's not a
> landscape or lumber tree. you can use it for syrup, but it's
> not as good as sugar or red maple.
> lee



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