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Suggestion on New Washer nick 04-21-2008
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Posted by stu on April 23, 2008, 8:57 pm

>
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought I would post this here as most people would know what
> >> washers have the most problems. I'm looking to replace our horrible
> >> Maytag Atlantis Washer MAV7504EWW since it has torn through the
> >> majority of our clothes and leaves a lot of lint on them coming out of
> >> the wash. This washing machine was prior to the acquisition from
> >> Whirlpool
> >>
> >> I was looking at the Whirlpool WTW5500 which seems that it may do
> >> the job, but after talking with a rep I'm not sure if this is the
> >> model that I want. I'm looking for a washer where the hot cycle will
> >> take exactly that hot water and not mix it with cold. The only model
> >> that Whirlpool has is the front loaders which have the sanitary cycle.
> >> I want to avoid front loaders as I have read problematic issues with
> >> them and want to avoid as may problems down the road as possible.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to purchase or should I
> >> stick with this model? The other option is to turn the cold water off
> >> for the first cycle but that means I have to be around after the first
> >> cycle is finished to turn the cold water on for the second cycle.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Nick
> >
> >If you are after a washer that is gentle on clothes and you want to do
hot
> >water washes, I think you should have another look at front loaders. With
a
> >front loader you will save about 80litres of hot water every load.(anyone
> >want to do the maths on heating 10C water to 70C in kWhrs?). The machine
I
> >have uses so little water it heats its own, with a temp range from cold
to
> >90C.
>
> Which make/model do you have? I have heard nothing but problems with
> front loaders. The issues I have seen had to do with water staying at
> the bottom after a wash cycle, musty odors, and circuit board errors.
> I am not worried at spending money to heat the water, we have our
> water heater set to a high hot water temp for our showers anyway.
>
>

Its an Asko6021. The top of the line Asko does have hot water in. The way
the machine fills(a little fill then stop, repeat)and the distance to my hot
water tank would make this almost a waste of time I think. I havent ever
used it over 40C so I dont know what its like above that. Had no problems
with musty odors, maybe its the way the door seals on the Asko? Have you
worked out what it costs to heat 80 litres of water?(My maths says it takes
60kWhr)



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Posted by KD on April 23, 2008, 9:36 pm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > >> Hello,
>
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0I thought I would post this here as most people would know=
what
> > >> washers have the most problems. I'm looking to replace our horrible
> > >> Maytag Atlantis Washer MAV7504EWW since it has torn through the
> > >> majority of our clothes and leaves a lot of lint on them coming out o=
f
> > >> the wash. This washing machine was prior to the acquisition from
> > >> Whirlpool
>
> > >> =A0 =A0 =A0I was looking at the Whirlpool WTW5500 which seems that it=
may do
> > >> the job, but after talking with a rep I'm not sure if this is the
> > >> model that I want. I'm looking for a washer where the hot cycle will
> > >> take exactly that hot water and not mix it with cold. The only model
> > >> that Whirlpool has is the front loaders which have the sanitary cycle=
.
> > >> I want to avoid front loaders as I have read problematic issues with
> > >> them and want to avoid as may problems down the road as possible.
>
> > >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to what to purchase or should I
> > >> stick with this model? The other option is to turn the cold water off=

> > >> for the first cycle but that means I have to be around after the firs=
t
> > >> cycle is finished to turn the cold water on for the second cycle.
>
> > >> Thanks in advance,
> > >> Nick
>
> > >If you are after a washer that is gentle on clothes and you want to do
> hot
> > >water washes, I think you should have another look at front loaders. Wi=
th
> a
> > >front loader you will save about 80litres of hot water every load.(anyo=
ne
> > >want to do the maths on heating 10C water to 70C in kWhrs?). The machin=
e
> I
> > >have uses so little water it heats its own, with a temp range from cold=

> to
> > >90C.
>
> > Which make/model do you have? I have heard nothing but problems with
> > front loaders. The issues I have seen had to do with water staying at
> > the bottom after a wash cycle, musty odors, and circuit board errors.
> > I am not worried at spending money to heat the water, we have our
> > water heater set to a high hot water temp for our showers anyway.
>
> Its an Asko6021. The top of the line Asko does have hot water in. The way
> the machine fills(a little fill then stop, repeat)and the distance to my h=
ot
> water tank would make this almost a waste of time I think. I havent ever
> used it over 40C so I dont know what its like above that. Had no problems
> with musty odors, maybe its the way the door seals on the Asko? Have you
> worked out what it costs to heat 80 litres of water?(My maths says it take=
s
> 60kWhr)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just out of curiousity, why do you need a straight hot water wash?
Seems awfully hard on your clothes, not to mention your energy bill. I
wash ours in just cold with soap designed for cold water, even gets my
two year old's muddy clothes clean.

I've read about the odour problems with front loaders. If you're
willing to invest the money in one, they're supposed to be better for
water efficiency, easier on your clothes since they have no agitator,
and get your clothes cleaner. But when you're not using it, leave it
open. It is obviously water-tight when it's closed, odour-tight too.
Let it air out is what I've read.

KD


Posted by Bob F on April 25, 2008, 4:13 pm

> If you are after a washer that is gentle on clothes and you want to do hot
> water washes, I think you should have another look at front loaders. With a
> front loader you will save about 80litres of hot water every load.(anyone
> want to do the maths on heating 10C water to 70C in kWhrs?). The machine I
> have uses so little water it heats its own, with a temp range from cold to
> 90C.

Which means it uses expensive electrically heated water, rather than the cheaper
gas heated water from the water heater.




Posted by stu on April 25, 2008, 11:40 pm

>
> > If you are after a washer that is gentle on clothes and you want to do
hot
> > water washes, I think you should have another look at front loaders.
With a
> > front loader you will save about 80litres of hot water every
load.(anyone
> > want to do the maths on heating 10C water to 70C in kWhrs?). The machine
I
> > have uses so little water it heats its own, with a temp range from cold
to
> > 90C.
>
> Which means it uses expensive electrically heated water, rather than the
cheaper
> gas heated water from the water heater.
>
>
Some people have electric hot water to. The cost depends on the rates where
you live. Thats why didnt meantion a $ amount. Do the maths for where you
live. My maths says that you will need about 73kWhrs to heat the water for a
top loader and about 13 kWhrs to heat the water for a front loader. With the
price of water there you also save about $0.30 a load in water. You may save
more you may save less.

Its also solves the problem of the OP wanting a machine that will do a very
hot wash without having to be there to open and close taps. I am not aware
of a top loader that does this.




Posted by stu on April 25, 2008, 11:42 pm

>
> > If you are after a washer that is gentle on clothes and you want to do
hot
> > water washes, I think you should have another look at front loaders.
With a
> > front loader you will save about 80litres of hot water every
load.(anyone
> > want to do the maths on heating 10C water to 70C in kWhrs?). The machine
I
> > have uses so little water it heats its own, with a temp range from cold
to
> > 90C.
>
> Which means it uses expensive electrically heated water, rather than the
cheaper
> gas heated water from the water heater.
>
>
>
Some people have electric hot water to. The cost depends on the rates where
you live. Thats why didnt meantion a $ amount. Do the maths for where you
live. My maths says that you will need about 73kWhrs to heat the water for a
top loader and about 13 kWhrs to heat the water for a front loader. With the
price of water there you also save about $0.30 a load in water. You may save
more you may save less.

Its also solves the problem of the OP wanting a machine that will do a very
hot wash without having to be there to open and close taps. I am not aware
of a top loader that does this.





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