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Texcote-Stucco-Vinyl Siding Question Rick 09-23-2006
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Posted by Rick on September 23, 2006, 6:00 pm
On the most waether exposed side of a 40 yr old stucco house (garage
actually) I have gotten some cracking and with wind driven rain the water
is penetrating. I want to redo the entire house with either texcote or
vinyl siding. I have got a few siding estimates and so far one texcote
estimate, the texcote contractor, who also does vinyl siding, says that he
won't do siding jobs on houses my age because most were built with the
stucco going below ground level. He says that covering with siding siding
could lead to problems later on. Of course none of the siding only guys
mentioned this. So is this true? I'm in northern Calif, with HOT summers,
mild winters, and 95% of the annual rainfall during the winter months, and
far enough away from major faultines so the quake shakes are very mild.
Which way to go?

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Posted by BobK207 on September 23, 2006, 10:26 pm

Rick wrote:
> On the most waether exposed side of a 40 yr old stucco house (garage
> actually) I have gotten some cracking and with wind driven rain the water
> is penetrating. I want to redo the entire house with either texcote or
> vinyl siding. I have got a few siding estimates and so far one texcote
> estimate, the texcote contractor, who also does vinyl siding, says that he
> won't do siding jobs on houses my age because most were built with the
> stucco going below ground level. He says that covering with siding siding
> could lead to problems later on. Of course none of the siding only guys
> mentioned this. So is this true? I'm in northern Calif, with HOT summers,
> mild winters, and 95% of the annual rainfall during the winter months, and
> far enough away from major faultines so the quake shakes are very mild.
> Which way to go?

I'd listen to the guy who does both.....he wants your work but he
doesn't want to give you a problem installation

with the stucco going below grade is a possible wicking surface that
can bring mositure up into the wall....currectly it can escpae thru the
stucco...cover it with vinyl siding & you help trap the moisture & you
could be aslking for rot problems

I'm not a fan vinyl siding you could demo the stucco back to framing,
put in a proper moisture barrier (building paper / tyvek) then
re-stucco or go with T-111 wood sliding

where in No Cal? Bay area or Sacto?

I live in SoCal (OC) & bad construction practice can still cause rot
problems


cheers
Bob


Posted by Rick on September 24, 2006, 8:39 pm

>
> Rick wrote:
>> On the most waether exposed side of a 40 yr old stucco house (garage
>> actually) I have gotten some cracking and with wind driven rain the
>> water is penetrating. I want to redo the entire house with either
>> texcote or vinyl siding. I have got a few siding estimates and so
>> far one texcote estimate, the texcote contractor, who also does vinyl
>> siding, says that he won't do siding jobs on houses my age because
>> most were built with the stucco going below ground level. He says
>> that covering with siding siding could lead to problems later on. Of
>> course none of the siding only guys mentioned this. So is this true?
>> I'm in northern Calif, with HOT summers, mild winters, and 95% of the
>> annual rainfall during the winter months, and far enough away from
>> major faultines so the quake shakes are very mild. Which way to go?
>
> I'd listen to the guy who does both.....he wants your work but he
> doesn't want to give you a problem installation
>
> with the stucco going below grade is a possible wicking surface that
> can bring mositure up into the wall....currectly it can escpae thru
> the stucco...cover it with vinyl siding & you help trap the moisture &
> you could be aslking for rot problems
>
> I'm not a fan vinyl siding you could demo the stucco back to framing,
> put in a proper moisture barrier (building paper / tyvek) then
> re-stucco or go with T-111 wood sliding
>
> where in No Cal? Bay area or Sacto?
>
> I live in SoCal (OC) & bad construction practice can still cause rot
> problems
>
I'm in Sacto.

Posted by on September 24, 2006, 8:30 am
if the vinyl sising contractors put in writing that they are going to
be removing the stucco ( at least where they put up thier edging, then
it's not a problem. Modern Vinyl comes in so many grades that you
should consider exactly that you get for the money. I had a huricane
rated vinyl siding installed on our house, it cost about $600 more than
the basic stuff, but has kevlar mesh nailers rather than sold. so the
installation is easier because they don't have to worry about if it can
still slide for thermal expansion.
If you are going this far, you should also have every piece of exposed
soffit, gutter, wood or metal looked at, and if any window work is
going to happen do it now.

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Rick wrote:
> On the most waether exposed side of a 40 yr old stucco house (garage
> actually) I have gotten some cracking and with wind driven rain the water
> is penetrating. I want to redo the entire house with either texcote or
> vinyl siding. I have got a few siding estimates and so far one texcote
> estimate, the texcote contractor, who also does vinyl siding, says that he
> won't do siding jobs on houses my age because most were built with the
> stucco going below ground level. He says that covering with siding siding
> could lead to problems later on. Of course none of the siding only guys
> mentioned this. So is this true? I'm in northern Calif, with HOT summers,
> mild winters, and 95% of the annual rainfall during the winter months, and
> far enough away from major faultines so the quake shakes are very mild.
> Which way to go?


Posted by Rick on September 24, 2006, 8:49 pm
empress2454@wowway.com wrote in

> if the vinyl sising contractors put in writing that they are going to
> be removing the stucco ( at least where they put up thier edging, then
> it's not a problem. Modern Vinyl comes in so many grades that you

So far none of the siding contractors have mentioned anything about this
and some want extra for house wrap.


> If you are going this far, you should also have every piece of exposed
> soffit, gutter, wood or metal looked at, and if any window work is
> going to happen do it now.
>

The windows will be done first for sure. If I understand the texcote guy
correctly they will inspect all the exposed wood and soffit first, and I
best as I can tell the siding guys will just cover or encase it.
>
>
>
> Rick wrote:
>> On the most waether exposed side of a 40 yr old stucco house (garage
>> actually) I have gotten some cracking and with wind driven rain the
>> water is penetrating. I want to redo the entire house with either
>> texcote or vinyl siding. I have got a few siding estimates and so
>> far one texcote estimate, the texcote contractor, who also does vinyl
>> siding, says that he won't do siding jobs on houses my age because
>> most were built with the stucco going below ground level. He says
>> that covering with siding siding could lead to problems later on. Of
>> course none of the siding only guys mentioned this. So is this true?
>> I'm in northern Calif, with HOT summers, mild winters, and 95% of the
>> annual rainfall during the winter months, and far enough away from
>> major faultines so the quake shakes are very mild. Which way to go?
>
>


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