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Thin Wall deans@wdeans.com 01-20-2007
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Posted by GeorgeD on January 21, 2007, 6:30 pm


Lawrence wrote:
>> Mobile home walls are made with 2x2's skinned on both sides with
>> plywood. The resulting wall is about 2" thick.
>
> Maybe in some places down south but not in Minnesota. All new mobile
> homes built or sold in MN are required to have a 2x6 stud wall just
> like a real house. The old ones were built with 2x2's, for sure, and
> are still around. The trailer parks still have them, side by side with
> the newer ones. When someone abandons one of those old ones they bring
> in a trac-hoe to demolish it and haul it away in a dumpster.
>
Gosh! Times have changed. I lived in a mobile home in North Dakota.
It had 2x2 walls. I was comfy, but I guess oil was cheaper then. 2x6
walls sort of eliminates what little was left of mobile in mobile home.
I bet you transport them for $0.50 a mile anymore either.

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Posted by Lawrence on January 21, 2007, 8:05 pm



GeorgeD wrote:
> Lawrence wrote:
> >> Mobile home walls are made with 2x2's skinned on both sides with
> >> plywood. The resulting wall is about 2" thick.
> >
> > Maybe in some places down south but not in Minnesota. All new mobile
> > homes built or sold in MN are required to have a 2x6 stud wall just
> > like a real house. The old ones were built with 2x2's, for sure, and
> > are still around. The trailer parks still have them, side by side with
> > the newer ones. When someone abandons one of those old ones they bring
> > in a trac-hoe to demolish it and haul it away in a dumpster.
> >
> Gosh! Times have changed. I lived in a mobile home in North Dakota.
> It had 2x2 walls. I was comfy, but I guess oil was cheaper then. 2x6
> walls sort of eliminates what little was left of mobile in mobile home.
> I bet you transport them for $0.50 a mile anymore either.

LOL, everything was cheaper then and we were younger. The MH's are not
as mobile as they used to be but they are still on wheels and have a
hitch. I had mine moved for $2.50/mile.

It is a specialty and they use a truck which is customized for that
purpose. It has a hydraulic hitch which can be adjusted up and down or
back and forth to get it underneath. Usually you only see brand new
ones being transported to their final resting place. Most in the
trailer parks will sell their house rather than move it.

I don't like my MH but was desperate when I bought it and now it is
paid for. I am thankful I was able to move mine to my 20 acre country
property and didn't get trapped in that terrible place.

The MH's and parks are about the only affordable thing left for low
income folk and there are three generations living side by side in the
trailer park. The shit that goes on with those trailer people is
unbelievable and I was lucky to just get out with my skin.


Posted by buffalobill on January 21, 2007, 9:07 am


in buffalo ny: building codes are local to you. it depends on what the
permit or building inspector says for the use [r-1 or whatever] and
type of construction wood frame, brick, etc] of the address. don't
create any firetraps that an ambulance or rescue worker can't remove
you from on a gurney. both windows and doors of minimum sizes for rooms
are part of safe egress. you will get a faster and safer answer locally
on this project. it sounds like it will not meet your code question for
safe egress and passage between rooms. if this is a hallway to an exit,
put down your hammer. it becomes criminally worse than a building code
violation to block any exit door. i spoke to a building inspector about
unused stairwells once and he told me about one sad story about
attempted exiting during a tragic fire in the university district.
even doors to unused or even unsafe second floor outdoor porches must
get a building permit if they are to be converted or modified before
removal or conversion to a properly placed and sized window. the
altitude of the windowsill above ground level is relevant to the
emergency exiting of dropping from the second story in a fire, and
regulated by the code. it's surprising how helpful the permit office
can be to you the new permit applicant.

deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> I have a room which I would like to turn into a hallway and a room.
> The problem is that if I stud out a wall the room, with the minimum
> width hallway, will be just less than the magical six feet wide. Would
> I be violating any codes if I made the wall out of a piece of 0.5 inch
> CDX or OSB held in place by 1x3 molding at the the top and set into a
> groove 3/4" deep routed into the floor at the bottom? I would then
> panel both sides with the paneling edges staggering the CDX edges and
> use surface mount electrical. I could even use tongue and groove
> plywood.
>
> Is there any proper way to make a THIN wall?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Room currently:
> |-------------|
> | |
> | |
> | |
> | |
> |-------------|
>
>
> Room with hallway:
> |-------------|
> | | |
> | | |
> | | |
> | | |
> |-------------|


Posted by Dean on January 21, 2007, 12:12 pm



deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> I have a room which I would like to turn into a hallway and a room.
> The problem is that if I stud out a wall the room, with the minimum
> width hallway, will be just less than the magical six feet wide. Would
> I be violating any codes if I made the wall out of a piece of 0.5 inch
> CDX or OSB held in place by 1x3 molding at the the top and set into a
> groove 3/4" deep routed into the floor at the bottom? I would then
> panel both sides with the paneling edges staggering the CDX edges and
> use surface mount electrical. I could even use tongue and groove
> plywood.
>
> Is there any proper way to make a THIN wall?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Room currently:
> |-------------|
> | |
> | |
> | |
> | |
> |-------------|
>
>
> Room with hallway:
> |-------------|
> | | |
> | | |
> | | |
> | | |
> |-------------|

To build on the other posts a bit;;How about metal 2x2 track n studs?
You can get shallow electrical boxes if needed for switch/outlet..If
light gauge studs it wo'nt be load bearing but they are easy to work
with and used in commercial construction to build semi-easy to remove
walls below drop-tile ceilings,,the track can be screwed,,glued or
nailed in place,,if all screwed it comes apart easy later..The only bad
thing would be electrical if needed,,You need metal conduit run thru
the holes pre-cut in the studs wich can be a pain sometimes..Just an
alternative to the wood 2x2 idea..Oh yeah,,some sub-floors are only
3/4" thick,,I would'nt cut a groove in the floor either...
Dean


Posted by on January 21, 2007, 12:42 pm



Dean wrote:
> deans@wdeans.com wrote:
> > I have a room which I would like to turn into a hallway and a room.
> > The problem is that if I stud out a wall the room, with the minimum
> > width hallway, will be just less than the magical six feet wide. Would
> > I be violating any codes if I made the wall out of a piece of 0.5 inch
> > CDX or OSB held in place by 1x3 molding at the the top and set into a
> > groove 3/4" deep routed into the floor at the bottom? I would then
> > panel both sides with the paneling edges staggering the CDX edges and
> > use surface mount electrical. I could even use tongue and groove
> > plywood.
> >
> > Is there any proper way to make a THIN wall?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Room currently:
> > |-------------|
> > | |
> > | |
> > | |
> > | |
> > |-------------|
> >
> >
> > Room with hallway:
> > |-------------|
> > | | |
> > | | |
> > | | |
> > | | |
> > |-------------|
>
> To build on the other posts a bit;;How about metal 2x2 track n studs?
> You can get shallow electrical boxes if needed for switch/outlet..If
> light gauge studs it wo'nt be load bearing but they are easy to work
> with and used in commercial construction to build semi-easy to remove
> walls below drop-tile ceilings,,the track can be screwed,,glued or
> nailed in place,,if all screwed it comes apart easy later..The only bad
> thing would be electrical if needed,,You need metal conduit run thru
> the holes pre-cut in the studs wich can be a pain sometimes..Just an
> alternative to the wood 2x2 idea..Oh yeah,,some sub-floors are only
> 3/4" thick,,I would'nt cut a groove in the floor either...
> Dean



Just out of curiousity, what is this new room going to be used for?
Around here a room 6 ft wide is called a closet or store room, because
it can't be used for much else. And unless code says something about
a 6 ft minimum, I don't see why the extra few inchs taken up by a wall
being 2" or 4" wide makes much difference.


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