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Tie to attach joist to beam above it Ed 02-08-2007
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Posted by Ed on February 8, 2007, 11:11 pm


What tie should I use to attach joists to a beam sitting on top of the
joist. I know I could put it in flush with the joist and just use a
regular joist hanger , but I would like to put the beam on top. The
joists are 2x6s and the beam is a 4*12.


Posted by marson on February 9, 2007, 7:55 am


> What tie should I use to attach joists to a beam sitting on top of the
> joist. I know I could put it in flush with the joist and just use a
> regular joist hanger , but I would like to put the beam on top. The
> joists are 2x6s and the beam is a 4*12.

This is an unusual situation--I doubt there is a piece of hardware
made specifically for this. Simpson strong tie sells heavy duty
twisted straps that would work, though i don't think they are made for
that purpose (google it). If you are dealing with a building
inspector, they might want to see it engineered.


Posted by RayV on February 9, 2007, 8:18 am


> What tie should I use to attach joists to a beam sitting on top of the
> joist. I know I could put it in flush with the joist and just use a
> regular joist hanger , but I would like to put the beam on top. The
> joists are 2x6s and the beam is a 4*12.

A 'hurricane' strap would do it (the ones for connecting rafters to
top-plates), but you could probably just toenail it.
This sounds unusual, why are you putting a beam *on top* of joists?

A beam indicates it will be carrying a load so the joists would have
to be supported to carry the beam. A 2x6 joist can't even span 10' @
16"OC, nevermind carrying a beam and additional load.
http://www.awc.org/calculators/span/calc/timbercalcstyle.asp

Hope you have an architect or better an engineer involved.





Posted by on February 9, 2007, 8:39 am


> > What tie should I use to attach joists to a beam sitting on top of the
> > joist. I know I could put it in flush with the joist and just use a
> > regular joist hanger , but I would like to put the beam on top. The
> > joists are 2x6s and the beam is a 4*12.
> A 'hurricane' strap would do it (the ones for connecting rafters to
> top-plates), but you could probably just toenail it.
> This sounds unusual, why are you putting a beam *on top* of joists?
> A beam indicates it will be carrying a load so the joists would have
> to be supported to carry the beam. A 2x6 joist can't even span 10' @
> 16"OC, nevermind carrying a beam and additional
load.http://www.awc.org/calculators/span/calc/timbercalcstyle.asp
> Hope you have an architect or better an engineer involved.


I think he wants to hang the joists from the beam- Ed, please clarify.

Dave


Posted by on February 9, 2007, 8:47 am


On Feb 9, 8:39 am, spamTHIS...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > What tie should I use to attach joists to a beam sitting on top of the
> > > joist. I know I could put it in flush with the joist and just use a
> > > regular joist hanger , but I would like to put the beam on top. The
> > > joists are 2x6s and the beam is a 4*12.
> > A 'hurricane' strap would do it (the ones for connecting rafters to
> > top-plates), but you could probably just toenail it.
> > This sounds unusual, why are you putting a beam *on top* of joists?
> > A beam indicates it will be carrying a load so the joists would have
> > to be supported to carry the beam. A 2x6 joist can't even span 10' @
> > 16"OC, nevermind carrying a beam and additional
load.http://www.awc.org/calculators/span/calc/timbercalcstyle.asp
> > Hope you have an architect or better an engineer involved.
> I think he wants to hang the joists from the beam- Ed, please clarify.
> Dave- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

That was my take on it too. Using normal terminology, beams support
joists, not the other way around.


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