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Posted by smcjensen on December 18, 2006, 10:40 pm
I have a screened in porch that currently has increasingly gross
outdoor carpeting on it. A dog, two kids, a sandbox, spilled
bubble-juice, and one end that gets soggy each time it rains has made
it pretty gross out there. It's now beyond the help of a steam
cleaner.
I was thinking of putting tile down out there. The subfloor is
pressure treated 3/4 plywood. It feels structurally stiffer than the
floors in the house, seems well built. I figured I'd put down cement
board over the ply, mortar those joints, and put down some one foot
square tiles with some texture to them to get traction when it's wet
out there. Any recommendations along the lines of do it or don't do
it, adhesive type, grout type, tile type? My biggest fear would be
expansion and contraction with the seasons causing cracks since the
subfloor's not in a climate controlled area.
Thanks, all.
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Posted by maurice on December 19, 2006, 12:39 am
Consider using Ditra under the tile.
I'm not positive about the outdoor application, where are you located?
But check the Schluter (manufacturer) website, I'm sure you'll find
some decent info there.
M
smcjensen wrote:
> I have a screened in porch that currently has increasingly gross
> outdoor carpeting on it. A dog, two kids, a sandbox, spilled
> bubble-juice, and one end that gets soggy each time it rains has made
> it pretty gross out there. It's now beyond the help of a steam
> cleaner.
>
> I was thinking of putting tile down out there. The subfloor is
> pressure treated 3/4 plywood. It feels structurally stiffer than the
> floors in the house, seems well built. I figured I'd put down cement
> board over the ply, mortar those joints, and put down some one foot
> square tiles with some texture to them to get traction when it's wet
> out there. Any recommendations along the lines of do it or don't do
> it, adhesive type, grout type, tile type? My biggest fear would be
> expansion and contraction with the seasons causing cracks since the
> subfloor's not in a climate controlled area.
>
> Thanks, all.
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Posted by buffalobill on December 19, 2006, 3:51 am
in buffalo ny: if this is on a concrete slab allow for rising moisture
and easy snow removal. if you have kids and pets you will be avoiding
oily deck toppings. if this is a porch with a crawl space, it will be
also handled according to your climate/rainfall/drainage of the home.
in some cases a rubber roof material may be the department you seek. my
neighbor used some newfangled roll of a self-stick roof material i
would explore to see if it is needed to keep the plywood dry. subject
to your climate an extra hose spigot and a lawn sprinkler may be
desired for daily rinsing of a deck you are describing. ours is on on a
windup water shutoff timer. we have used those colorful 24" square
interlocking playrom padded rubber squares with some success except not
in winter. good luck!
browse your major concerns here:
http://www.buildingscience.com/resources/mold/Read_This_Before_You_Design_Build_or_Renovate.pdf
smcjensen wrote:
> I have a screened in porch that currently has increasingly gross
> outdoor carpeting on it. A dog, two kids, a sandbox, spilled
> bubble-juice, and one end that gets soggy each time it rains has made
> it pretty gross out there. It's now beyond the help of a steam
> cleaner.
>
> I was thinking of putting tile down out there. The subfloor is
> pressure treated 3/4 plywood. It feels structurally stiffer than the
> floors in the house, seems well built. I figured I'd put down cement
> board over the ply, mortar those joints, and put down some one foot
> square tiles with some texture to them to get traction when it's wet
> out there. Any recommendations along the lines of do it or don't do
> it, adhesive type, grout type, tile type? My biggest fear would be
> expansion and contraction with the seasons causing cracks since the
> subfloor's not in a climate controlled area.
>
> Thanks, all.
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Posted by Lawrence on December 19, 2006, 11:07 am
smcjensen wrote:
> I have a screened in porch that currently has increasingly gross
> outdoor carpeting on it. A dog, two kids, a sandbox, spilled
> bubble-juice, and one end that gets soggy each time it rains has made
> it pretty gross out there. It's now beyond the help of a steam
> cleaner.
>
> I was thinking of putting tile down out there. The subfloor is
> pressure treated 3/4 plywood. It feels structurally stiffer than the
> floors in the house, seems well built. I figured I'd put down cement
> board over the ply, mortar those joints, and put down some one foot
> square tiles with some texture to them to get traction when it's wet
> out there. Any recommendations along the lines of do it or don't do
> it, adhesive type, grout type, tile type? My biggest fear would be
> expansion and contraction with the seasons causing cracks since the
> subfloor's not in a climate controlled area.
I think this may depend on your climate. Things tend to move with
freezing weather. If your climate is mild then no problem. If you are
expecting 20 below then maybe new carpet is the ticket.
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Posted by Eric in North TX on December 19, 2006, 11:37 am
Growing up we had a tile front porch, it was glazed tiles, and was
beyond hazardous in wet weather, snow and ice made it all the worse. My
Dad finally covered it wit outdoor carpet even though by then everyone
had been trained to immediately get a death grip on the porch rail and
slowly skid themselves to the door or steps depending on direction of
travel. I bring this up, mainly to bring up safety concern with
traction if snow blows into the screen porch. Granted glazed is the
worst case scenario, but any given tile is slipperier than any given
carpet.
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