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Posted by LittleF on August 13, 2007, 3:56 pm
We are considering hiring a contractor to demo, install kitchen
cabinets, do electrical work (possible additional 220 line for
separate cooktop), and plumbing for a small kitchen remodel. He
subcontracts the elect. and plumbing, and states all are licensed. We
are buying the cabinets and countertop/sink, appliances ourselves. He
works on a T and M basis, time and materials. Time cost is $115 an
hour for 3 men working. He estimates the job at about $6000-7000
total, but his contract provides for no max for the job. His
references are good. Small kitchen about 13 feet by 7 feet, galley
style. Floors and painting we are doing ourselves also.
What should one consider with signing a T and M contract?
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Posted by RBM on August 13, 2007, 4:52 pm
If he has good references, and you like the work he's done for others, I
think you give him your trust. If you try to micro manage, and pin him down
to strict numbers, you'll wind up with an adversarial relationship, and the
job will go poorly. If he is in fact a cheat, it won't matter what's written
on a contract.
> We are considering hiring a contractor to demo, install kitchen
> cabinets, do electrical work (possible additional 220 line for
> separate cooktop), and plumbing for a small kitchen remodel. He
> subcontracts the elect. and plumbing, and states all are licensed. We
> are buying the cabinets and countertop/sink, appliances ourselves. He
> works on a T and M basis, time and materials. Time cost is $115 an
> hour for 3 men working. He estimates the job at about $6000-7000
> total, but his contract provides for no max for the job. His
> references are good. Small kitchen about 13 feet by 7 feet, galley
> style. Floors and painting we are doing ourselves also.
>
> What should one consider with signing a T and M contract?
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Posted by Toller on August 13, 2007, 5:18 pm
> We are considering hiring a contractor to demo, install kitchen
> cabinets, do electrical work (possible additional 220 line for
> separate cooktop), and plumbing for a small kitchen remodel. He
> subcontracts the elect. and plumbing, and states all are licensed. We
> are buying the cabinets and countertop/sink, appliances ourselves. He
> works on a T and M basis, time and materials. Time cost is $115 an
> hour for 3 men working. He estimates the job at about $6000-7000
> total, but his contract provides for no max for the job. His
> references are good. Small kitchen about 13 feet by 7 feet, galley
> style. Floors and painting we are doing ourselves also.
>
> What should one consider with signing a T and M contract?
Personally I wouldn't use a T&M agreement. He is supposed to be the expert;
he ought to be able to determine how much it will cost him.
Naturally he is entitled to do business anyway he wants and you shouldn't
argue about it, but should find someone else.
Possible additional 220 line? He doesn't know if he needs a circuit or
not?! Lose the flake now.
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Posted by Tony on August 13, 2007, 5:33 pm
There is always sucker around the corner
and you are it
> We are considering hiring a contractor to demo, install kitchen
> cabinets, do electrical work (possible additional 220 line for
> separate cooktop), and plumbing for a small kitchen remodel. He
> subcontracts the elect. and plumbing, and states all are licensed. We
> are buying the cabinets and countertop/sink, appliances ourselves. He
> works on a T and M basis, time and materials. Time cost is $115 an
> hour for 3 men working. He estimates the job at about $6000-7000
> total, but his contract provides for no max for the job. His
> references are good. Small kitchen about 13 feet by 7 feet, galley
> style. Floors and painting we are doing ourselves also.
>
> What should one consider with signing a T and M contract?
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Posted by ransley on August 13, 2007, 6:17 pm
> There is always sucker around the corner
> and you are it
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> > We are considering hiring a contractor to demo, install kitchen
> > cabinets, do electrical work (possible additional 220 line for
> > separate cooktop), and plumbing for a small kitchen remodel. He
> > subcontracts the elect. and plumbing, and states all are licensed. We
> > are buying the cabinets and countertop/sink, appliances ourselves. He
> > works on a T and M basis, time and materials. Time cost is $115 an
> > hour for 3 men working. He estimates the job at about $6000-7000
> > total, but his contract provides for no max for the job. His
> > references are good. Small kitchen about 13 feet by 7 feet, galley
> > style. Floors and painting we are doing ourselves also.
>
> > What should one consider with signing a T and M contract?- Hide quoted text -
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If he estimates 6000 have him do it for 6000 or it will probably cost
you 9000. He is a pro , he knows what it will cost. You can probably
get it done for 4000.
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