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Posted by mm on May 11, 2007, 2:28 am
On 10 May 2007 06:52:49 -0700, tking@federatedinv.com wrote:
>The other
>odd thing is that stray voltage isn't supposed to be a problem unless
>its 4+ volts. My voltage is less than 1 and I can still feel it, but
They probaby don't use the "broken skin standard" when saying 4 volts.
>only if you have an area of broken skin that contacts the water. All
>around my house I get a 1 volt reading by putting a meter probe in the
>ground and the other on a bare metal piece of a downspout.
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Posted by on May 9, 2007, 11:39 pm
On 9 May 2007 19:50:42 -0700, tking@federatedinv.com wrote:
>I have an inground pool with concrete decking. If you have a cut or
>scrape on your body you can feel a mild shock or tingling sensation
>while touching the decking or aluminum coping. For example, if you
>have a cut on your hand and put this hand in the pool water, then
>place your other hand on the concrete decking, you feel a mild shock.
>This cannot be felt unless the skin is broken. A woman who has
>recently shaved her legs will also feel the tingling. The is about .
>8v of current detected with a meter from the pool water to the
>concrete deck. Do you think this is some type of ground issue, etc?
>I can provide many more details to anyone who has suggestions or think
>they know what the problem is.
You have a bonding problem. The safest thing is to call an electrician
but the first thing you can do is to be sure all of the solid 8 guage
wires are connected. They should be connected to the light, pump and
one coming from the steel in the concrete
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Posted by on May 10, 2007, 9:59 am
On May 9, 11:39 pm, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> On 9 May 2007 19:50:42 -0700, t...@federatedinv.com wrote:
> >I have an inground pool with concrete decking. If you have a cut or
> >scrape on your body you can feel a mild shock or tingling sensation
> >while touching the decking or aluminum coping. For example, if you
> >have a cut on your hand and put this hand in the pool water, then
> >place your other hand on the concrete decking, you feel a mild shock.
> >This cannot be felt unless the skin is broken. A woman who has
> >recently shaved her legs will also feel the tingling. The is about .
> >8v of current detected with a meter from the pool water to the
> >concrete deck. Do you think this is some type of ground issue, etc?
> >I can provide many more details to anyone who has suggestions or think
> >they know what the problem is.
> You have a bonding problem. The safest thing is to call an electrician
> but the first thing you can do is to be sure all of the solid 8 guage
> wires are connected. They should be connected to the light, pump and
> one coming from the steel in the concrete
I don't think there is any ground to the steel in the concrete. Is
there an easy way to do this after the fact? I will have to check on
the light. Would it be grounded under the decking by the light
fixture, or are you talking about the ground coming to the switch from
the light fixture. I subbed all this work out individually (pool,
concrete, electrical, fence, etc.) so it's probably my own fault for
not keeping tabs on the grounding/bonding. Any other ideas or tests I
can run would be appreciated.
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Posted by on May 10, 2007, 11:36 am
On May 10, 8:59 am, t...@federatedinv.com wrote:
> On May 9, 11:39 pm, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> > On 9 May 2007 19:50:42 -0700, t...@federatedinv.com wrote:
> > >I have an inground pool with concrete decking. If you have a cut or
> > >scrape on your body you can feel a mild shock or tingling sensation
> > >while touching the decking or aluminum coping. For example, if you
> > >have a cut on your hand and put this hand in the pool water, then
> > >place your other hand on the concrete decking, you feel a mild shock.
> > >This cannot be felt unless the skin is broken. A woman who has
> > >recently shaved her legs will also feel the tingling. The is about .
> > >8v of current detected with a meter from the pool water to the
> > >concrete deck. Do you think this is some type of ground issue, etc?
> > >I can provide many more details to anyone who has suggestions or think
> > >they know what the problem is.
> > You have a bonding problem. The safest thing is to call an electrician
> > but the first thing you can do is to be sure all of the solid 8 guage
> > wires are connected. They should be connected to the light, pump and
> > one coming from the steel in the concrete
> I don't think there is any ground to the steel in the concrete. Is
> there an easy way to do this after the fact? I will have to check on
> the light. Would it be grounded under the decking by the light
> fixture, or are you talking about the ground coming to the switch from
> the light fixture. I subbed all this work out individually (pool,
> concrete, electrical, fence, etc.) so it's probably my own fault for
> not keeping tabs on the grounding/bonding. Any other ideas or tests I
> can run would be appreciated.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Since the voltage is there with the main breaker open, what you have
is apparently what is called a stray voltage problem. It's not all
that uncommon. Sometimes the utility can identify a likely cause in
their distributions system and correct it. Other times, it proves
very difficult to rectify. I know areas here in NJ where that has
been a problem and despite a lot of focus on fixing it, it still
remains to some extent. Getting the electric company out is the first
step.
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Posted by on May 10, 2007, 3:43 pm
On May 10, 11:36 am, trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> On May 10, 8:59 am, t...@federatedinv.com wrote:
> > On May 9, 11:39 pm, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> > > On 9 May 2007 19:50:42 -0700, t...@federatedinv.com wrote:
> > > >I have an inground pool with concrete decking. If you have a cut or
> > > >scrape on your body you can feel a mild shock or tingling sensation
> > > >while touching the decking or aluminum coping. For example, if you
> > > >have a cut on your hand and put this hand in the pool water, then
> > > >place your other hand on the concrete decking, you feel a mild shock.
> > > >This cannot be felt unless the skin is broken. A woman who has
> > > >recently shaved her legs will also feel the tingling. The is about .
> > > >8v of current detected with a meter from the pool water to the
> > > >concrete deck. Do you think this is some type of ground issue, etc?
> > > >I can provide many more details to anyone who has suggestions or think
> > > >they know what the problem is.
> > > You have a bonding problem. The safest thing is to call an electrician
> > > but the first thing you can do is to be sure all of the solid 8 guage
> > > wires are connected. They should be connected to the light, pump and
> > > one coming from the steel in the concrete
> > I don't think there is any ground to the steel in the concrete. Is
> > there an easy way to do this after the fact? I will have to check on
> > the light. Would it be grounded under the decking by the light
> > fixture, or are you talking about the ground coming to the switch from
> > the light fixture. I subbed all this work out individually (pool,
> > concrete, electrical, fence, etc.) so it's probably my own fault for
> > not keeping tabs on the grounding/bonding. Any other ideas or tests I
> > can run would be appreciated.- Hide quoted text -
> > - Show quoted text -
> Since the voltage is there with the main breaker open, what you have
> is apparently what is called a stray voltage problem. It's not all
> that uncommon. Sometimes the utility can identify a likely cause in
> their distributions system and correct it. Other times, it proves
> very difficult to rectify. I know areas here in NJ where that has
> been a problem and despite a lot of focus on fixing it, it still
> remains to some extent. Getting the electric company out is the first
> step.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks. I called them yesterday and they should be able to make a
visit within one week.
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>odd thing is that stray voltage isn't supposed to be a problem unless
>its 4+ volts. My voltage is less than 1 and I can still feel it, but