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Posted by Eric in North TX on December 3, 2006, 11:12 am
> If the chain is getting knotted up, you have it too long. Shorten
> the chain so there is just a little slack when the flapper is
> closed and the handle up.
>
> --
> Keith
Tried that, but I don't get a good flush, it seems to need a little
slack for the flapper to work properly. I have maybe 1/4" slack, but
the problem occurs when the flapper is up.
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Posted by Oren on December 3, 2006, 12:55 pm
wrote:
>> If the chain is getting knotted up, you have it too long. Shorten
>> the chain so there is just a little slack when the flapper is
>> closed and the handle up.
>>
>> --
>> Keith
>
>Tried that, but I don't get a good flush, it seems to need a little
>slack for the flapper to work properly. I have maybe 1/4" slack, but
>the problem occurs when the flapper is up.
The flush handle may have several holes to attach the chain; one at
the end, one center and one close to the handle. I have made
adjustments by selecting a different hole to secure the chain.
--
Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
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Posted by Jeff Wisnia on December 3, 2006, 2:07 pm
Eric in North TX wrote:
> I've had several of these knot up over the years, not regularly enough
> to just replace them, just often enough to be an annoyance. I've tried
> many types, all seem to have some draw-back. I'm looking for product
> recommendations, modifications, anything anyone has done that worked
> for years. I can tell you some things that don't work; the rubber
> straps with the arrow shaped stops (too rigid), the fluid master black
> plastic chain (worst knotting problem to date, it floats hence the
> tangles).
>
If the other suggestions don't work well enough to satisfy you then just
replace the chain with a length of nylon fishing line. Works every time.
HYH.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.
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Posted by George E. Cawthon on December 3, 2006, 5:39 pm
Eric in North TX wrote:
> I've had several of these knot up over the years, not regularly enough
> to just replace them, just often enough to be an annoyance. I've tried
> many types, all seem to have some draw-back. I'm looking for product
> recommendations, modifications, anything anyone has done that worked
> for years. I can tell you some things that don't work; the rubber
> straps with the arrow shaped stops (too rigid), the fluid master black
> plastic chain (worst knotting problem to date, it floats hence the
> tangles).
>
Fishing line. I use 30 pound monofilament. The
hardest part for me is tying the knots since I'm
not a fisherman, so my knots look a bit gross.
You need to carefully use the amount that leaves
only a little slack in the line when the flapper
is down so that you don't have any excess to catch
on parts.
I've been using if for nearly about 10 years and
never had a problem; no problem with the line but
the flappers wear out. Currently one toilet
(about 30 years old) has had the same flapper and
and fishing line for about 5 years. Newest toilet
is a replacement(about 4 years old), and I will
certainly fix it with fishing line when it
develops a problem.
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Posted by on December 3, 2006, 10:45 pm
Eric in North TX wrote:
> I've had several of these knot up over the years, not regularly enough
> to just replace them, just often enough to be an annoyance. I've tried
> many types, all seem to have some draw-back. I'm looking for product
> recommendations, modifications, anything anyone has done that worked
> for years. I can tell you some things that don't work; the rubber
> straps with the arrow shaped stops (too rigid), the fluid master black
> plastic chain (worst knotting problem to date, it floats hence the
> tangles).
Some chains & hooks seem to work well and some don't. With the ones
that don't, I've been able to solve the problem by replacing the hook
with a tie wrap. This works very well and has solved the problem with 2
toilets that I have tried it with. The problem is that the tie wraps
wear through and breaks after a few years. Then you have to replace
them.
I like the idea of the fishing sinker. I'm going to try that next time.
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