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Posted by Big_Jake on April 1, 2008, 10:09 pm
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> > wrote:
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> >>Rain all day here. Might as well hit up some inside issues.
>
> >>Outlet shows faulty wiring with one of those plug in outlet analyzers.
> >>Here's what I found.
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> >>http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=hv1fmx&s=3
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> >>The "electricians" thoughts...if they had any at all:
> >> Oh what the hell. They all connect back in the panel box anyway.
> >> Oh here's an empty hole. It fits. Must go here.
> >> Why use those pesky screws. Anyhow, they're kinda dirty.
>
> >>My thoughts:
> >> Gee that backstabbed white might have unsheathed wire showing
> >>because...it's lose and falling out maybe?
> >> Wonder why the "electrican" didn't just backstab the ground on
> >> the
> >>hot side. It's closer.
>
> >>And further up the same line
> >>http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=33wtk6g&s=3
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> >>The "electricians" thoughts...
> >> Hmmm, broken wire. I'll just reattach to this screw securly.
> >> Let's
> >>see. This screw is on the same side of the outlet as where it was.
> >>Must be just another place to attach same connection. Lucky me they
> >>backstabbed all the other wires!
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> >>My thoughts:
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> >> The "electricians" new connection seems to be wrapped the wrong
> >>way.
> >> The new connection has a kinked loop.
> >> I don't think the new connections is even around the screw.
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> >>In the end I just threw out the outlets, cut bare wire ends off to
> >>sheathing, restripped and attached to screws of new outlet. Green
> >>lights on analyzer.
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> > The maker of "back-stabbed" outlets and the electricians that use them
> > both need to be shot. Those are the reasons our area requires $50
> > "Arc-Fault" breakers (not GFI's) in the main panel servicing the
> > bedrooms of a new or remodeled home.
> > The bare wire is definitely on the wrong terminal and wrapped the
> > wrong way.
> > The red wire nut back in the box holding the bare ground wires should
> > technically be a green wire nut incase you're interested.
> > Bubba
>
> Not sure I've ever seen green ones. Color coding to me was always
> thought to be the combos of gauge wire that can be used and the colors
> can differ between mfgrs.
>
> Thanks for the input though Bubba.
I think the box even calls them "Greenies". Typically, they have a
hole in the end where you can feed a ground wire out the top and
attach it to a ground screw.
Here's a link from a manufacturer:
http://www.idealindustries.com/products/wire_termination/twist-on/wing-nut_greenie.jsp
Also, the "wings" on the duplex outlet are actually not adequate as a
grounding means unless the outlet is "self-grounding" where it has a
"spring" which bonds one of the screws to the outlet itself. These
outlets cost around $1.50 in my area, and are labeled as self
grounding.
JK
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