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Posted by z on September 10, 2007, 3:35 pm
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> > > We've got *very* hard water where we live. After 20 years, I still
> > > have no rings around the inside water level in the bowl.
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> - How is that possible??? You must be livin' right! ... or your wife
> - is in there scrubbing every other day! :-)
>
> OK, let's do a survey...
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> How many of you who own toilets of over 5 years old have a ring around
> the bowl at the water level?
Me, and I've tried everything from soaking them overnight with a paste
containing vinegar to scrubbing it with scotchbrite.
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Posted by anubis on September 11, 2007, 5:13 pm
> How many of you who own toilets of over 5 years old have a ring around
> the bowl at the water level?
I bought an American Standard new at home depot 2 years ago and I have
rings around the bowl
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Posted by Fjiluk The Hogfish-Beater on September 10, 2007, 2:01 pm
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:58:29 -0700, Walter R. wrote:
> This is more home maintenance than repair, but maybe someone has a good
> solution.
>
> After about 5 years of use, our new toilet bowls show rings around the
> inside water level in the bowl. There seem to be only two ways of dealing
> with this nuisance: a. mechanical abrasion with cleanser or pumice stone, or
> b. use of an acid that will dissolve the calcium deposits.
>
> Both methods have a deleterious effect on the underlying porcelain, making
> the problem worse the next time around.
>
> Is there a third method, which does not dissolve the porcelain in the
> cleaning process?
A product like CLR shouldn't damage porcelain and it hasn't in my years of
using it. Your problem now is you no longer have a smooth surface and this
exacerbates the collection of deposits. I would clean it more frequently
with a bit of CLR before the deposits build to a noticeable level. I clean
my bowl once a week but I do have soft water and use a one of those blue
things you toss in the tank. Those really do wonders for keeping deposits
down.
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Posted by franz frippl on September 11, 2007, 12:37 pm
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:58:29 -0700, Walter R. wrote:
> This is more home maintenance than repair, but maybe someone has a good
> solution.
>
> After about 5 years of use, our new toilet bowls show rings around the
> inside water level in the bowl. There seem to be only two ways of dealing
> with this nuisance: a. mechanical abrasion with cleanser or pumice stone, or
> b. use of an acid that will dissolve the calcium deposits.
>
> Both methods have a deleterious effect on the underlying porcelain, making
> the problem worse the next time around.
>
> Is there a third method, which does not dissolve the porcelain in the
> cleaning process?
>
Try using a cup or two of household vinegar and letting things soak a few
hours. Vinegar is a very weak acid and less likely to damage porcelain.
You might look at using softened water for the toilet. Not a complicated
or expensive DIY task.
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Posted by mm on September 13, 2007, 12:31 am
wrote:
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>After about 5 years of use, our new toilet bowls show rings around the
>inside water level in the bowl. There seem to be only two ways of dealing
>with this nuisance: a. mechanical abrasion with cleanser or pumice stone, or
>b. use of an acid that will dissolve the calcium deposits.
>
>Both methods have a deleterious effect on the underlying porcelain,
How do you know. Regarding the acid product?
I ask because I worried about this too, when I needed a stronger
cleaner.
Are you talking about a toilet bowel cleaner that contains acid, or
just plain acid (as it is sold, diluted with water)?
I ended up usinge an acidic toilet bowl cleaner, first the one in the
green container that that I can't find anymore (I can find a cleaning
product by the same name, but no longer can I find the toilet bowel
clearn), and now one from Lowes. Brands on request, but I can't
remember them now.
Those work.
Do they do damage? I don't know. I wondered too, so I've tried
feelign the bowl when it is clean and it feels very smooth. I guess I
should compare it with the toilet I never use, but frankly, I don't
think my fingers are sensitive enough to tell if something is more
smooth than the first one.
Is there a way to measure something smooth to know how smooth it is?
See my other post for a few more details.
> making
>the problem worse the next time around.
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