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Toilet issue, Moms cshenk 10-10-2009
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Posted by cshenk on October 10, 2009, 10:39 am


Hi folks, this in from Mom. "comode is not holding water but fills up fine
but leaks out over time so must be refilled."

Ideas? She'd mean the toilet bowl not the tank.


Posted by dpb on October 10, 2009, 10:50 am


cshenk wrote:
> Hi folks, this in from Mom. "comode is not holding water but fills up
> fine but leaks out over time so must be refilled."
>
> Ideas? She'd mean the toilet bowl not the tank.

Flapper valve

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Posted by cshenk on October 10, 2009, 5:57 pm


"dpb" wrote
> cshenk wrote:

>> Hi folks, this in from Mom. "comode is not holding water but fills up
>> fine but leaks out over time so must be refilled."
>> Ideas? She'd mean the toilet bowl not the tank.

> Flapper valve

Wouldnt that affect the tank and make it sound like it's running all the
time? LOL, thanks for your patience. She lives a 6 hour drive so this is a
sort of 'distance support'. I recommended she change that though just in
case. Its a real easy fix if related! She's just never done the plumming
part of the work when we fixed up houses for sale. That was almost
exclusively my older sister's job.


Posted by dpb on October 11, 2009, 10:54 am


cshenk wrote:
> "dpb" wrote
>> cshenk wrote:
>
>>> Hi folks, this in from Mom. "comode is not holding water but fills
>>> up fine but leaks out over time so must be refilled."
>>> Ideas? She'd mean the toilet bowl not the tank.
>
>> Flapper valve
>
> Wouldnt that affect the tank and make it sound like it's running all the
> time? LOL, thanks for your patience. She lives a 6 hour drive so this
> is a sort of 'distance support'. I recommended she change that though
> just in case. Its a real easy fix if related! She's just never done
> the plumming part of the work when we fixed up houses for sale. That
> was almost exclusively my older sister's job.

Was presuming this was communication gap. They can seep so slowly never
hear it until it does finally reach level it refills.

If it really is bowl level, does it fully refill on flush? If not, may
be sediment buildup in supply holes.

If it really is the bowl level dropping w/o the tank between flushes it
has to either be siphoning, leaking or vacuum pulling water out as
someone else mentioned (if the pet, evaporation, etc., other external
causes are excluded).

Sounds like time to send in the sister... :)

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Posted by cshenk on October 11, 2009, 11:15 am


"dpb" wrote
> cshenk wrote:
>> "dpb" wrote
>>> cshenk wrote:

>>>> Hi folks, this in from Mom. "comode is not holding water but fills up
>>>> fine but leaks out over time so must be refilled."
>>>> Ideas? She'd mean the toilet bowl not the tank.
>>> Flapper valve
>> Wouldnt that affect the tank and make it sound like it's running all the
>> time? LOL, thanks for your patience. She lives a 6 hour drive so this
>> is a sort of 'distance support'. I recommended she change that though
>> just in case. Its a real easy fix if related! She's just never done the
>> plumming part of the work when we fixed up houses for sale. That was
>> almost exclusively my older sister's job.
> Was presuming this was communication gap. They can seep so slowly never
> hear it until it does finally reach level it refills.

Well, she says she'll go to the HW store and get a new one tomorrow.

I appreciate you guys (and gals) patience! It's frustrating to not be able
to answer in details other than I do 'Mom-speak' quite well, so yes, it's
the bowl and she's not hearing anything (her hearing is still tip-top).
She's checked the tank (The other bathroom had a tank problem last year and
we talked her through fixing it)

> If it really is bowl level, does it fully refill on flush? If not, may be
> sediment buildup in supply holes.

Yes, re-fills on flush.

> If it really is the bowl level dropping w/o the tank between flushes it
> has to either be siphoning, leaking or vacuum pulling water out as someone
> else mentioned (if the pet, evaporation, etc., other external causes are
> excluded).

I'm thinking vacumn pulling via vent sounds most likely just now but I'll
have her give it another good go with a plunger and change out the flapper
since those are simple cheap fixes.

The reason why I think it may be wind driven is 2 things recently changed
the wind pattern. She put up a much better wind barrier and re-insulated
underneath. She also mentioned a large tree was taken out fairly near her
lot, just a little bit ago. That might be affecting any top venting.

> Sounds like time to send in the sister... :)
> --
>


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