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Toilet leaks at base. funkymonks 02-06-2008
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Posted by on February 6, 2008, 9:07 pm
Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. We've pulled it
twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
it. It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.

Any advice?

The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. Is
that common? The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
clogged a lot. The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
the problem?

Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?

Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):

http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643511105762

http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073074

http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073090

Posted by jim on February 6, 2008, 9:19 pm
On Feb 6, 11:07=A0pm, funkymo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. =A0We've pulled it
> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
> it. =A0It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>
> Any advice?
>
> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. =A0Is
> that common? =A0The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
> clogged a lot. =A0The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
> the problem?
>
> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>
> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...

Double up on the wax ring or get a toilet flange extension.

Posted by a on February 7, 2008, 8:01 am
jim wrote:
> On Feb 6, 11:07 pm, funkymo...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. We've pulled it
>> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
>> it. It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
>> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. Is
>> that common? The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
>> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
>> clogged a lot. The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
>> the problem?
>>
>> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>>
>> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
>> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643...
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>
> Double up on the wax ring or get a toilet flange extension.

I second that - not many DIYers know that you can use 2 rings!

a

Posted by Sac Dave on February 6, 2008, 9:35 pm

> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. We've pulled it
> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
> it. It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>
> Any advice?
>
> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. Is
> that common? The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
> clogged a lot. The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
> the problem?
>
> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>
> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643511105762
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073074
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073090

The offset would be a I screwed up the measurement Item. They roughed in
the water closet wrong the offset is how they fixed it. I would seal all the
ends of the wood with caulking. I would use a flanged wax ring with plain
wax ring on top of that your flange looks a little low ( I think they make
a thicker one also ) Now hears the hot tip when you caluk the base of the
water closet to the floor leave the back un-caulked that way if there is a
problem the water will run out not just sit on the floor under the water
closet plus you will see it. Another thing I do is I set the toilet flush it
a bunch times slip a piece of paper under the toilet and make sure there is
water then I caulk. Another thing I would do not really very conventional I
would set the toilet without a wax ring trace wear it sits pull it up And
seal the hell out of the wood underneath it, The problem is wood a water do
not mix I myself do not recommend wood floors in kitchen or bathrooms you
just asking for trouble but I'm sure a lot of people never have a problem .



Posted by Mortimer Schnerd, RN on February 6, 2008, 10:40 pm
Sac Dave wrote:
> seal the hell out of the wood underneath it, The problem is wood a water do
> not mix I myself do not recommend wood floors in kitchen or bathrooms you
> just asking for trouble but I'm sure a lot of people never have a problem .


Even with a tile floor, it's hard to get away from a wooden subfloor.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

Mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com



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