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Toilet leaks at base. funkymonks 02-06-2008
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Posted by Speedy Jim on February 6, 2008, 9:41 pm
funkymonks@gmail.com wrote:

> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. We've pulled it
> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
> it. It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>
> Any advice?
>
> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. Is
> that common? The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
> clogged a lot. The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
> the problem?
>
> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>
> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643511105762
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073074
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647806073090


Fernco makes a rubber seal:
http://www.fernco.com/FTS.asp
but I don't think it will work with your offset flange.

As the other Jim said, double up on wax.

Another trick: Don't merely slap the wax ring on
the toilet outlet horn. Heat an extra ring with a
hair dryer to soften it. Dry the horn with the dryer too.
Take a putty knife and smear the heated wax around the
horn so it sticks like glue. The, take a fresh ring
and squish it onto the prepared horn. Work it by hand to
adhere tightly.

Measure to be sure the wax ring(s) extend far enough so it will
be compressed when it meets the flange. Clean the flange
and apply heated wax to it too with putty knife.

Offset flanges will indeed cause clogging. It's worse
if the toilet paper is the newer soft style.

Jim

Posted by on February 6, 2008, 10:24 pm
On Feb 6, 8:07=A0pm, funkymo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. =A0We've pulled it
> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
> it. =A0It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>
> Any advice?
>
> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. =A0Is
> that common? =A0The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
> clogged a lot. =A0The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
> the problem?
>
> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>
> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...

Thanks for the tips everyone. Agreed that the offset is probably
compensation for a screw-up. :(

I never considered doubling up on the wax ring. I'll do that. So I
just stack one on top of another? Any risk that it will deform into
the water path when seating the toilet and disrupt flushing?

Posted by Sac Dave on February 6, 2008, 11:39 pm




Thanks for the tips everyone. Agreed that the offset is probably
compensation for a screw-up. :(

I never considered doubling up on the wax ring. I'll do that. So I
just stack one on top of another? Any risk that it will deform into
the water path when seating the toilet and disrupt flushing?

No you wont have problem but what do I know I'm just a plumber. Good Luck
TILE TILE TILE



Posted by a on February 7, 2008, 8:02 am
funkymonks@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 6, 8:07 pm, funkymo...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. We've pulled it
>> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
>> it. It still leaked. Now we've had the wood floor repaired from the
>> water damage, and I don't want this to occur again.
>>
>> Any advice?
>>
>> The pvc fitting on the floor is a bit strange, it has an offset. Is
>> that common? The foundation is concrete, so I can't exactly replace
>> this, but I blame this for the fact that this toilet seems to get
>> clogged a lot. The fitting is also not perfectly level, could that be
>> the problem?
>>
>> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?
>>
>> Three Pictures (the resudue is from the wood floor repair, I have
>> cleaned the junction well before reseating the toilet in the past):
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051643...
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/funkymonks/UntitledAlbum/photo#5164051647...
>
> Thanks for the tips everyone. Agreed that the offset is probably
> compensation for a screw-up. :(
>
> I never considered doubling up on the wax ring. I'll do that. So I
> just stack one on top of another? Any risk that it will deform into
> the water path when seating the toilet and disrupt flushing?

No, should be fine.

a

Posted by Nexus7 on February 7, 2008, 10:20 am
On Feb 6, 8:07=A0pm, funkymo...@gmail.com wrote:
> Our toilet leaks at the base and rots the wood floor. =A0We've pulled it
> twice now, cleaned the junction, replaced the wax ring, and reseated
>...
> Are there special wax rings that might help prevent this problem?

Don't bother with the wax seals. Use a wax-free seal; Fernco makes a
couple. They've very tolerant of movement, bad level, depth, etc.

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