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Posted by cshenk on September 29, 2009, 8:27 pm
"Kurt Petro" wrote
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> "cshenk" wrote
>> I'd like something that grows about 20-30 ft, and is hardy and stable in
>> wind storms. I take that to mean slow growing and deep rooted. Apple
> I have a Cleveland Select Flowering Pear. Years ago the city put in the
> Bradford Pear for street trees. The Cleveland is a superior tree for
> ice/snow & wind, compared to the Bradford. You can see the difference in
> my tree & what the city put in. The Bradford's should really be taken
> down, they keep breaking. I "assume" you had a Bradford?
Yup. Lovely thing. Come spring, people would stop cars just to glance at
it as they drove by.
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> Also have 3 Crimson King Maples, these are a very slow growing tree, and I
> love the color of them. However, the Crimson doesn't have the vibrant
> colors in the fall, like other maples. In fact, they are pretty ugly in
> the
Humm! Another to check and thanks!
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> I have a Silver Maple, which I must take down. These are a very quick
> growing tree, but split very easily in high winds and just about under all
> conditions. I would not plant another one of these.
Not a good deal here. Silver maple are a good bit of the saplings we find
weeding out of our container garden and other spots. Cedar too. Found 3
cedars in the lettuce container garden box. Oh, if I want a dogwood, I just
have to plant it partly under the oak tree.
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> I have an American Redbud, which is really nice when in bloom. It's a
> choice worth looking at.
This or tandem apples is where we seem to be centering.
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> Also have a Purple Leaf Plum (none fruit bearing), which I keep pruned
> back. These produce a nice colorful bloom in the spring. But, the Japanese
> Beetles love the sweet purple leaf. This replaced a Kousa Dogwood, which
> died off.
Too much sun for the dogwood? Out in nature in Virginia, they grow wild all
over, but always under the canopy of a larger hardwood.
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> My apple tree...I'm not crazy about, but the deer sure love it. I just
> took
Issues were suckers I gather?
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> All my trees were from a 2" to 2-1/2" caliber when planted, except the
> Silver Maple which was planted from a seed.
Snicker, seedling maples, oaks, cedar and hawthorn I can snag from my own
yard. In fact, I'll probably have to weed them away from the open dirt
where the flowering (Bradford) pear was come spring.
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on September 29, 2009, 9:25 pm
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>Too much sun for the dogwood? Out in nature in Virginia, they grow wild all
>over, but always under the canopy of a larger hardwood.
My mind caught up a bit and I remembered it was the highway between
Yorktown and Newport News [not Norfolk] that had all the Dogwoods I
remember from 1971. They were growing in the median with no shade.
Check for different varieties- apparently they don't all need shade.
Jim
[I googled for the highway- it was 17, not 70]
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Posted by sligoNoSPAMjoe on September 30, 2009, 4:17 pm
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>Hey, with all our collective knowledge, perhaps one of us knows a bit on
>trees?
>I'd like something that grows about 20-30 ft, and is hardy and stable in
>wind storms. I take that to mean slow growing and deep rooted. Apple
>maybe? Area is Norfolk, Virginia for growing specs.
>BTW, woke up this morning to find my flowering pear (about 35-40ft) laying
>across the front of the house. Appears to have only damaged a gutter. Tree
>service enroute. Big windstorm sheered it in half. They'll have to take
>the rest out I am sure due to the way the trunk is split to the core about 1
>foot up from the ground. Pretty thing but wasn't a wise choice for this
>area.
Remember that apple trees have apples. If you are going to
harvest them (after doing a little spraying during the season) you
have a double good tree. However remember that harvest or not, there
will be apples to pick up that were bad or just did not get harvested.
I have not experienced it, but I have heard that apples tend to be
weak trees and may drop limbs, especially if they are not trimmed.
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Posted by cshenk on September 30, 2009, 6:09 pm
"cshenk" wrote:
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>>wind storms. I take that to mean slow growing and deep rooted. Apple
>>maybe? Area is Norfolk, Virginia for growing specs.
> Remember that apple trees have apples. If you are going to
> harvest them (after doing a little spraying during the season) you
> have a double good tree. However remember that harvest or not, there
> will be apples to pick up that were bad or just did not get harvested.
Grin, with as many squirrels as we have here, I will probably never see a
ripe apple ;-) I can hope though!
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> I have not experienced it, but I have heard that apples tend to be
> weak trees and may drop limbs, especially if they are not trimmed.
Yes, saw that one. But at the size of them, this isn't that much of an
issue. Not like the 100ft tall oaks and such all around me! It's even
worse on the next block. Basically if you were to 'Google earth' of my
area, you see trees and the occasional roof. Mine is one of the roofs you
can see, partly occluded by neighbor trees.
We are also looking at redfern. Might be just right!
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Posted by Clot on September 30, 2009, 6:47 pm
cshenk wrote:
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> "cshenk" wrote:
>>> wind storms. I take that to mean slow growing and deep rooted. Apple
>>> maybe? Area is Norfolk, Virginia for growing specs.
>> Remember that apple trees have apples. If you are going to
>> harvest them (after doing a little spraying during the season) you
>> have a double good tree. However remember that harvest or not, there
>> will be apples to pick up that were bad or just did not get
>> harvested.
> Grin, with as many squirrels as we have here, I will probably never
> see a ripe apple ;-) I can hope though!
Do those little emigrant bastards eat apples as well? I'm sending them back
on the first ship to Boston. :)
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>> I'd like something that grows about 20-30 ft, and is hardy and stable in
>> wind storms. I take that to mean slow growing and deep rooted. Apple
> I have a Cleveland Select Flowering Pear. Years ago the city put in the
> Bradford Pear for street trees. The Cleveland is a superior tree for
> ice/snow & wind, compared to the Bradford. You can see the difference in
> my tree & what the city put in. The Bradford's should really be taken
> down, they keep breaking. I "assume" you had a Bradford?