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Turn thermostat down or leave steady? Stormin Mormon 10-29-2009
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Posted by SteveB on October 29, 2009, 11:36 am




>> No, it takes too long to re-heat the boiler and all the water in the
>> pipes, radiators, and floor tubing. It is always best to set it once
>> and leave it there all winter. Too much energy is lost when all that
>> water is asked to re-heat all the surfaces again. For example when I
>> feel the return manifold from the coils under my concrete slab after
>> the slab was allowed to cool, the return water is ice cold, all that
>> energy to reheat the slab. No, bad asvice, best to keep it warm and
>> leave it there, saves tons of energy.

We use warm water here to shower. I'd say that a higher % of people use
heat pumps or gas to heat rather than water. In your case, MAYBE it is
cheaper to leave it on, but I think you are only quoting yourself, and no
analytic studies by any testing agency. Can you find any said studies? I
don't doubt that you believe what you say is true, I just think that it is
not.

Steve



Posted by RickH on October 29, 2009, 2:05 pm


> >> No, it takes too long to re-heat the boiler and all the water in the
> >> pipes, radiators, and floor tubing. =A0It is always best to set it onc=
e
> >> and leave it there all winter. =A0Too much energy is lost when all tha=
t
> >> water is asked to re-heat all the surfaces again. =A0For example when =
I
> >> feel the return manifold from the coils under my concrete slab after
> >> the slab was allowed to cool, the return water is ice cold, all that
> >> energy to reheat the slab. =A0No, bad asvice, best to keep it warm and
> >> leave it there, saves tons of energy.
> We use warm water here to shower. =A0I'd say that a higher % of people us=
e
> heat pumps or gas to heat rather than water. =A0In your case, MAYBE it is
> cheaper to leave it on, but I think you are only quoting yourself, and no
> analytic studies by any testing agency. =A0Can you find any said studies?=
=A0I
> don't doubt that you believe what you say is true, I just think that it i=
s
> not.
> Steve

Boiler installers never put daily "set back" thermostats on boilers,
only forced air systems get those, and they tell you to set the
thermostat once and leave it there.

The rules are completely different for radiant heated buidings vs air
heated buildings.

In an air heated building you heat the air, in a radiant heated
building you heat the building materials and that in turn heats the
people. When you lose all that stored energy it costs a fortune to
recover it back in boiler usage. There is nothing quite like the
warmth of a radiant-heated house.


Posted by mm on October 29, 2009, 8:13 pm


On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT), RickH

>> >> No, it takes too long to re-heat the boiler and all the water in the
>> >> pipes, radiators, and floor tubing.  It is always best to set it once
>> >> and leave it there all winter.  Too much energy is lost when all that
>> >> water is asked to re-heat all the surfaces again.  For example when I
>> >> feel the return manifold from the coils under my concrete slab after
>> >> the slab was allowed to cool, the return water is ice cold, all that
>> >> energy to reheat the slab.  No, bad asvice, best to keep it warm and
>> >> leave it there, saves tons of energy.
>> We use warm water here to shower.  I'd say that a higher % of people use
>> heat pumps or gas to heat rather than water.  In your case, MAYBE it is
>> cheaper to leave it on, but I think you are only quoting yourself, and no
>> analytic studies by any testing agency.  Can you find any said studies?  I
>> don't doubt that you believe what you say is true, I just think that it is
>> not.
>> Steve
>Boiler installers never put daily "set back" thermostats on boilers,
>only forced air systems get those, and they tell you to set the
>thermostat once and leave it there.

Why did you assume the Mormon had a boiler?
>The rules are completely different for radiant heated buidings vs air
>heated buildings.
>In an air heated building you heat the air, in a radiant heated
>building you heat the building materials and that in turn heats the
>people. When you lose all that stored energy it costs a fortune to
>recover it back in boiler usage.

It costs that same fortune and more to keep it hot without
interruption. Maybe it's also unpleasant becuase it takes hours to
heat up, but that's another story.

> There is nothing quite like the
>warmth of a radiant-heated house.


Posted by RickH on October 29, 2009, 9:51 pm


> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT), RickH
> >> >> No, it takes too long to re-heat the boiler and all the water in th=
e
> >> >> pipes, radiators, and floor tubing. =A0It is always best to set it =
once
> >> >> and leave it there all winter. =A0Too much energy is lost when all =
that
> >> >> water is asked to re-heat all the surfaces again. =A0For example wh=
en I
> >> >> feel the return manifold from the coils under my concrete slab afte=
r
> >> >> the slab was allowed to cool, the return water is ice cold, all tha=
t
> >> >> energy to reheat the slab. =A0No, bad asvice, best to keep it warm =
and
> >> >> leave it there, saves tons of energy.
> >> We use warm water here to shower. =A0I'd say that a higher % of people=
use
> >> heat pumps or gas to heat rather than water. =A0In your case, MAYBE it=
is
> >> cheaper to leave it on, but I think you are only quoting yourself, and=
no
> >> analytic studies by any testing agency. =A0Can you find any said studi=
es? =A0I
> >> don't doubt that you believe what you say is true, I just think that i=
t is
> >> not.
> >> Steve
> >Boiler installers never put daily "set back" thermostats on boilers,
> >only forced air systems get those, and they tell you to set the
> >thermostat once and leave it there.
> Why did you assume the Mormon had a boiler?
> >The rules are completely different for radiant heated buidings vs air
> >heated buildings.
> >In an air heated building you heat the air, in a radiant heated
> >building you heat the building materials and that in turn heats the
> >people. =A0When you lose all that stored energy it costs a fortune to
> >recover it back in boiler usage.
> It costs that same fortune and more to keep it hot without
> interruption. =A0Maybe it's also unpleasant becuase it takes hours to
> heat up, but that's another story.
> > There is nothing quite like the
> >warmth of a radiant-heated house.- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

Hot water heat is very popular here.


Posted by Stormin Mormon on October 30, 2009, 8:18 am


Boilers are typically left hot, so there isn't a bunch of
humidity in the boiler, rusting it out. And, boiler systems
often do take a LONG time to recover temp.

--
Christopher A. Young
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>Boiler installers never put daily "set back" thermostats on
>boilers,
>only forced air systems get those, and they tell you to set
>the
>thermostat once and leave it there.

Why did you assume the Mormon had a boiler?
>The rules are completely different for radiant heated
>buidings vs air
>heated buildings.
>In an air heated building you heat the air, in a radiant
>heated
>building you heat the building materials and that in turn
>heats the
>people. When you lose all that stored energy it costs a
>fortune to
>recover it back in boiler usage.

It costs that same fortune and more to keep it hot without
interruption. Maybe it's also unpleasant becuase it takes
hours to
heat up, but that's another story.




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