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UV lights in AC coils? Don Wiss 03-01-2008
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Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 2, 2008, 6:14 pm
> geothermaljones wrote:
> > Check out the UV in the return ductwork...
> > The UV can degrade the plastics oft found on the A/C Coils, namely the
> > condensate drain pan.
>
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDgeothermaljones
>
> >> I'm replacing my central air conditioner with a much more efficient
> >> one. (I hope Congress restores the $500 tax credit this year!) One
> >> of the options I can buy is UV lamps for the coils. Carrier makes
> >> these claims:
>
> >> - Kills bacteria & mold growing on the indoor coil
> >> - Enhanced indoor air quality
> >> - Enhanced air flow
> >> - Minimizes microbial build-up on coils
> >> - Improves system efficiency
>
> >> See:http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/airquality/uvlamp/
>
> >> Now I don't yet know how much this option is (or the annual
> >> replacement of the bulbs). But is this something worth considering?
>
> >> Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>
> donwiss:
>
> Geothermljones is spot on. =EF=BF=BDYou have to be cautious on the evapora=
tor coil
> pans.
>
> HVAC Tech isn't thinking well. The mold that can grow will inhibit thermal=

> transfer from the air to the coil. =EF=BF=BDUV lights have been proven to =
increase
> efficiency in that respect. =EF=BF=BDAlbeit over time.
>
> The thing with mold though, is it requires a dark, damp and warm spot to
> grow. =EF=BF=BDThat in mind, while the air conditioning is in operation, t=
he cooling
> coil hopefully is around 40=EF=BF=BD F. =EF=BF=BDNot the best for mold gro=
wth. =EF=BF=BDBut, when
> standing water is left in the condensate pan, and the system is at rest [o=
r
> heats during the evening, cools during the day], can leave the opportunity=

> for mold growth.
>
> --
> Zyp- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

well turn the heat on occasionally even in the summer.. with windows
open.

nice hot furnace air should kill any mold growing in there

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Posted by Zyp on March 2, 2008, 7:34 pm
hallerb@aol.com wrote:
>> geothermaljones wrote:
>>> Check out the UV in the return ductwork...
>>> The UV can degrade the plastics oft found on the A/C Coils, namely
>>> the condensate drain pan.
>>
>>> ? ?geothermaljones
>>
>>>> I'm replacing my central air conditioner with a much more efficient
>>>> one. (I hope Congress restores the $500 tax credit this year!) One
>>>> of the options I can buy is UV lamps for the coils. Carrier makes
>>>> these claims:
>>
>>>> - Kills bacteria & mold growing on the indoor coil
>>>> - Enhanced indoor air quality
>>>> - Enhanced air flow
>>>> - Minimizes microbial build-up on coils
>>>> - Improves system efficiency
>>
>>>> See:http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/airquality/uvlamp/
>>
>>>> Now I don't yet know how much this option is (or the annual
>>>> replacement of the bulbs). But is this something worth considering?
>>
>>>> Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>>
>> donwiss:
>>
>> Geothermljones is spot on. ?You have to be cautious on the
>> evaporator coil pans.
>>
>> HVAC Tech isn't thinking well. The mold that can grow will inhibit
>> thermal transfer from the air to the coil. ?UV lights have been
>> proven to increase efficiency in that respect. ?Albeit over time.
>>
>> The thing with mold though, is it requires a dark, damp and warm
>> spot to grow. ?That in mind, while the air conditioning is in
>> operation, the cooling coil hopefully is around 40? F. ?Not the best
>> for mold growth. ?But, when standing water is left in the condensate
>> pan, and the system is at rest [or heats during the evening, cools
>> during the day], can leave the opportunity for mold growth.
>>
>> --
>> Zyp- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> well turn the heat on occasionally even in the summer.. with windows
> open.
>
> nice hot furnace air should kill any mold growing in there

Mold likes it steamy. Generally 98º or better in fact. Turning on the
heat occasionally might increase growth. Ever heard of "dirty sock
syndrome?" During a heat pumps operation, water left standing in the
condensate pan aids the growth of microorganisms and bacteria. The result
is the co-toxins produced and the stench as well.

As long as the condensate pan is metal, and, a UVC light is installed in
such a manor not to expose other plastic parts to the light, they are a good
remedy to eliminate mold growth around the evaporator. But, it is recommend
the bulb be replaced annually.


--
Zyp



Posted by hallerb@aol.com on March 2, 2008, 7:52 pm
> hall...@aol.com wrote:
> >> geothermaljones wrote:
> >>> Check out the UV in the return ductwork...
> >>> The UV can degrade the plastics oft found on the A/C Coils, namely
> >>> the condensate drain pan.
>
> >>> ? ?geothermaljones
>
> >>>> I'm replacing my central air conditioner with a much more efficient
> >>>> one. (I hope Congress restores the $500 tax credit this year!) One
> >>>> of the options I can buy is UV lamps for the coils. Carrier makes
> >>>> these claims:
>
> >>>> - Kills bacteria & mold growing on the indoor coil
> >>>> - Enhanced indoor air quality
> >>>> - Enhanced air flow
> >>>> - Minimizes microbial build-up on coils
> >>>> - Improves system efficiency
>
> >>>> See:http://www.residential.carrier.com/products/airquality/uvlamp/
>
> >>>> Now I don't yet know how much this option is (or the annual
> >>>> replacement of the bulbs). But is this something worth considering?
>
> >>>> Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).
>
> >> donwiss:
>
> >> Geothermljones is spot on. ?You have to be cautious on the
> >> evaporator coil pans.
>
> >> HVAC Tech isn't thinking well. The mold that can grow will inhibit
> >> thermal transfer from the air to the coil. ?UV lights have been
> >> proven to increase efficiency in that respect. ?Albeit over time.
>
> >> The thing with mold though, is it requires a dark, damp and warm
> >> spot to grow. ?That in mind, while the air conditioning is in
> >> operation, the cooling coil hopefully is around 40? F. ?Not the best
> >> for mold growth. ?But, when standing water is left in the condensate
> >> pan, and the system is at rest [or heats during the evening, cools
> >> during the day], can leave the opportunity for mold growth.
>
> >> --
> >> Zyp- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > well turn the heat on occasionally even in the summer.. with windows
> > open.
>
> > nice hot furnace air should kill any mold growing in there
>
> Mold likes it steamy. =EF=BF=BDGenerally 98=EF=BF=BD or better in fact. =
=EF=BF=BD Turning on the
> heat occasionally might increase growth. =EF=BF=BDEver heard of "dirty soc=
k
> syndrome?" =EF=BF=BDDuring a heat pumps operation, water left standing in =
the
> condensate pan aids the growth of microorganisms and bacteria. =EF=BF=BDTh=
e result
> is the co-toxins produced and the stench as well.
>
> As long as the condensate pan is metal, and, a UVC light is installed in
> such a manor not to expose other plastic parts to the light, they are a go=
od
> remedy to eliminate mold growth around the evaporator. =EF=BF=BDBut, it is=
recommend
> the bulb be replaced annually.
>
> --
> Zyp- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

my point was that with the heat on any mold will dry out and die.

Posted by PaPaPeng on March 2, 2008, 9:42 pm
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:52:07 -0800 (PST), "hallerb@aol.com"

>my point was that with the heat on any mold will dry out and die.

Nope. Under stress they form spores to be blown to other more
hospitable places for regrowth.

On UV lamps I once saw a section of them in the Dollar Store. They
never stocked them again. But these lamps are available in novelty
stores that sell psychedelic posters and paraphenalia. Perhaps UV
lamp bulbs are cheaper there than at a HVAC place.

Posted by Noon-Air on March 2, 2008, 9:55 pm

> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:52:07 -0800 (PST), "hallerb@aol.com"
>
>>my point was that with the heat on any mold will dry out and die.
>
> Nope. Under stress they form spores to be blown to other more
> hospitable places for regrowth.
>
> On UV lamps I once saw a section of them in the Dollar Store. They
> never stocked them again. But these lamps are available in novelty
> stores that sell psychedelic posters and paraphenalia. Perhaps UV
> lamp bulbs are cheaper there than at a HVAC place.

Wrong kind of UV... wrong light band and temperature



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