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Posted by Rich256 on January 27, 2007, 4:55 pm
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> ...the underground wire tracer is the next best bet.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Do you need a building permit to install underground sprinklers? If
>>>>>>> so, I
>>>>>>> wonder if the location of all items might be listed, particularly
>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>> there would be concern about installing near gas & water lines.
>>>>>> Nowhere I'm aware of, certainly. The depth of a lawn sprinkler system
>>>>>> barely scratches the ground, nothing close to the depth of any
>>>>>> utilites
>>>>>> so the interaction there is of minimal concern at most.
>>>>> How deep are the pipes under the soil?
>>>> Which pipes? Lawn sprinkler systems (as opposed to golf courses, etc.,
>>>> that may be quite a bit deeper sometimes owing to the size and that
>>>> they tend to not count on draining them for cold weather, etc.) ime may
>>>> be as shallow as 4-6", most often 6-12" and rarely, if ever, deeper.
>>>> Often they're installed w/ a slitter rather than a trencher to minimize
>>>> damage to existing sod.
>>>>
>>>> Utility water lines, otoh, are at least below frost line and any buried
>>>> electrical/telephone, etc., are also deeper.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Even though utility pipes are deeper, I asked the question because ****
>>> IF **** a permit were required, the town might want to see a diagram of
>>> all component locations, compared with utility pipes. The reason is
>>> simple: To minimize the STOOPID FACTOR - an installer who doesn't bother
>>> checking where utility lines are.
>> Very few bother with permits. Their main concern would be about anti
>> siphon valve location.
>>
>> Utility with a few exceptions like cable TV are always relatively deep.
>> Cable TV might be just below the sod but no permit there anyway.
>
>
> True, but here, the electric company has these "Call Before You Dig" logos
> on our bills, on the sides of their trucks, etc. If you call, they'll stop
> by for free and mark the paths of the lines. I called them when I dug a new
> garden, because I go down 3 feet for new beds.
>
> So...I'm just sayin'...not for nuthin... Never mind. :-)
>
>
A few years ago my telephone became very noisy. Had the phone guy come
out. He hooks up his tracer and starts tracing it across the yard. He
gets back to a place, stops and puts down a marker. I say's "OH-OH". I
had dug down about three feet in that area just recently. Nicked the
phone line!!
Water, Gas & Power I don't worry about here as it is down at least 6 ft.
That is a fact as just a couple years ago I hired someone to fix a
water leak near the meter (near the street). In the process they
uncovered the gas lines too. Both about 7 feet down.
I was so happy I had not tried it myself. The main gas line was a white
plastic. Amazingly the guy digging the trench didn't crack it. And a
good thing as he could not speak English and would have had a hard time
calling for help.
The contract was then trying to break loose a fitting where they had
connected plastic to copper. The fitting had cracked. His elbow
slipped, bumped the gas line and cracked it. SO they got delayed
waiting for the gas company to fix it. While fixing it they cracked it
two more times. The gas company assured me they were going to replace
that white plastic but so far have not seen them. Probably not until
the day comes when someone drops a match and the dirt burns.
But I dig my sprinkler lines all the time without worrying. They are a
maximum of about 8 inches. Where the tracing the lines is necessary is
installing the turn on valve. It is about 5 feet down and close to the
gas lines coming into the house.
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