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Unusual event H 06-20-2007
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Posted by HeyBub on June 21, 2007, 9:56 am
H wrote:
>
> Well, I do know what I am doing around a breaker panel, but I had an
> electrician anyway testing the breakers. They are working perfectly.
> Full power on the business leads of the double breaker. The other
> end (at the dryer and A/C) is where the problems manifest themselves.
>
> One thing of possible import: I am having a new room added to the
> back of the house, and an electrician ran a new wire into the breaker
> panel, though he did it rather blind (he could not see exactly where
> the drill came out in the basement.
>
> It seemed to me that had he hit the 240V line, sparks (or something)
> would fly. None of that happened. But, if he had nicked both 240V
> lines, would that explain the power loss (which is not total)?

Not if he cut the neutral or ground.

Open up the hole and see what he did.



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Posted by Doug Miller on June 21, 2007, 9:59 am
>H wrote:
>>
>> Well, I do know what I am doing around a breaker panel, but I had an
>> electrician anyway testing the breakers. They are working perfectly.
>> Full power on the business leads of the double breaker. The other
>> end (at the dryer and A/C) is where the problems manifest themselves.
>>
>> One thing of possible import: I am having a new room added to the
>> back of the house, and an electrician ran a new wire into the breaker
>> panel, though he did it rather blind (he could not see exactly where
>> the drill came out in the basement.
>>
>> It seemed to me that had he hit the 240V line, sparks (or something)
>> would fly. None of that happened. But, if he had nicked both 240V
>> lines, would that explain the power loss (which is not total)?
>
>Not if he cut the neutral or ground.

Of course, if he had hit either the neutral or the ground, that wouldn't
affect the voltages on the hot legs...


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Posted by mm on June 21, 2007, 3:11 pm
wrote:

>
>> It seemed to me that had he hit the 240V line, sparks (or something)
>> would fly. None of that happened. But, if he had nicked both 240V
>> lines, would that explain the power loss (which is not total)?
>
>Not if he cut the neutral or ground.
>
>Open up the hole and see what he did.

I agree. Instead of all this theory, he should look where changes
were made.

I ddin't undderstand the story about the electrician, but drilling
without seeing where the drill will come out sounds, I don't know,
risky?

Posted by William Underhill on June 21, 2007, 11:28 pm
mm wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>> It seemed to me that had he hit the 240V line, sparks (or something)
>>> would fly. None of that happened. But, if he had nicked both 240V
>>> lines, would that explain the power loss (which is not total)?
>> Not if he cut the neutral or ground.
>>
>> Open up the hole and see what he did.
>
> I agree. Instead of all this theory, he should look where changes
> were made.
>
> I ddin't undderstand the story about the electrician, but drilling
> without seeing where the drill will come out sounds, I don't know,
> risky?

I've seen it happen myself - putting in the mounts for a new TV in the
C&POs mess; the shipwright doing the mounting measured twice and for
safety's sake put a block of 2x4 between the wireway and the bulkhead -
but the block shifted and the drill went as neatly as you please into
the lighting circuit for that WT compartment. No lightshow, just the
lights went out.

We razzed him about it for weeks afterwards...

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Posted by mm on June 21, 2007, 11:49 pm
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 03:28:40 GMT, William Underhill

>
>> I ddin't undderstand the story about the electrician, but drilling
>> without seeing where the drill will come out sounds, I don't know,
>> risky?
>
>I've seen it happen myself - putting in the mounts for a new TV in the
>C&POs mess; the shipwright doing the mounting measured twice and for
>safety's sake put a block of 2x4 between the wireway and the bulkhead -
>but the block shifted and the drill went as neatly as you please into
>the lighting circuit for that WT compartment. No lightshow, just the
>lights went out.

Phew, I thought you were going to tell me the ship sank!
>
>We razzed him about it for weeks afterwards...


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