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Upgrading electrical service Eric_Scantlebury 01-07-2008
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Posted by Eric_Scantlebury on January 7, 2008, 8:20 pm
Hello All,

I realize this is a very "open ended" question - but I'm going to ask
anyway. I'm looking to upgrade my 100amp fuse box to 200 amp breakers (and
the corresponding service). This is in Rhode Island in the North East. If
anyone has had this done recently what did you pay for the upgrade? Just
trying to get an idea of the range of prices that I should be looking at.
In upgrading am I forced to correct any "out of code" stuff?

The reason I ask is I had one guy come in and basically wanted to rewire my
house. Sorry - that isn't in the cards - for the price I was quoted I might
as well sell the house and start over.

Also, if anyone has a recomendation for a good electrition in the area that
chargers a "fair" price I'm all ears.

TIA


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Posted by Nate Nagel on January 7, 2008, 8:28 pm
Eric_Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I realize this is a very "open ended" question - but I'm going to ask
> anyway. I'm looking to upgrade my 100amp fuse box to 200 amp breakers
> (and the corresponding service). This is in Rhode Island in the North
> East. If anyone has had this done recently what did you pay for the
> upgrade? Just trying to get an idea of the range of prices that I
> should be looking at. In upgrading am I forced to correct any "out of
> code" stuff?
>
> The reason I ask is I had one guy come in and basically wanted to rewire
> my house. Sorry - that isn't in the cards - for the price I was quoted
> I might as well sell the house and start over.
>
> Also, if anyone has a recomendation for a good electrition in the area
> that chargers a "fair" price I'm all ears.
>
> TIA

I have no idea of price, but I don't see why you couldn't maintain the
circuits you currently have and only get a new service and breaker
panel. what rationale did he give for "rewiring the whole house?"

nate

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Posted by RBM on January 7, 2008, 8:35 pm
It may come under the "out of code" clause. or possibly the "out of work"
clause
> Eric_Scantlebury wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I realize this is a very "open ended" question - but I'm going to ask
>> anyway. I'm looking to upgrade my 100amp fuse box to 200 amp breakers
>> (and the corresponding service). This is in Rhode Island in the North
>> East. If anyone has had this done recently what did you pay for the
>> upgrade? Just trying to get an idea of the range of prices that I should
>> be looking at. In upgrading am I forced to correct any "out of code"
>> stuff?
>>
>> The reason I ask is I had one guy come in and basically wanted to rewire
>> my house. Sorry - that isn't in the cards - for the price I was quoted I
>> might as well sell the house and start over.
>>
>> Also, if anyone has a recomendation for a good electrition in the area
>> that chargers a "fair" price I'm all ears.
>>
>> TIA
>
> I have no idea of price, but I don't see why you couldn't maintain the
> circuits you currently have and only get a new service and breaker panel.
> what rationale did he give for "rewiring the whole house?"
>
> nate
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
> http://members.cox.net/njnagel



Posted by Eric_Scantlebury on January 7, 2008, 9:13 pm

> Eric_Scantlebury wrote:
> I have no idea of price, but I don't see why you couldn't maintain the
> circuits you currently have and only get a new service and breaker panel.
> what rationale did he give for "rewiring the whole house?"

Well - that's what my current thinking is as of now. But I am having a hard
time trying to find a 60 or 70 amp sub panel with more than 4 spaces (what I
find only has 2 spaces - I want to run 2 20 amp circuits for the outlets,
one 15 am for lighting (I'm running 5 cans, one overhead and an outside
garage light on it) and a seperate 15 am circuit for the refridgerator and
microwave. Currently I have 2 20 amp circuits supplying the existing stuff,
so I know I'll never, with the extra cans, run into even 50% of a 60 amp
sub - and I'd be taking the 2 20's out of the 100 amp fuse box). I'm
redoing the kitchen so want to add 5 additional circuts to the fuse box
which is "full". Though I have plenty of "overhead" left and the sub-panel
solution would work. But I'm thinking I'm going to have to bite the bullet
some time so this might be the time.

I had one guy in and he looked at the fuse box and wanted to replace all the
circuitry to bring it "up to code". Well, I can't afford that I do all my
own electrical but won't touch this type of upgrade (I won't touch a panel
upgrade itself, I know my limits). He wanted close to $3000 to run the
upgrade, which, to me, is real high. And this was just to bring my kitchen
up to code (with the existing 2 circuits). I even got the old "you don't
want to keep this because it might start a fire" speach. Well, it's been in
30 years and I haven't even blown a fuse so the scare tactics are bullsh**.
I do all my own circuits to the panel so I know basic wiring and I know when
I'm being feed the story.


Posted by zxcvbob on January 8, 2008, 8:36 am
Eric_Scantlebury wrote:
>
>> Eric_Scantlebury wrote:
>> I have no idea of price, but I don't see why you couldn't maintain the
>> circuits you currently have and only get a new service and breaker
>> panel. what rationale did he give for "rewiring the whole house?"
>
> Well - that's what my current thinking is as of now. But I am having a
> hard time trying to find a 60 or 70 amp sub panel with more than 4
> spaces (what I find only has 2 spaces - I want to run 2 20 amp circuits
> for the outlets, one 15 am for lighting (I'm running 5 cans, one
> overhead and an outside garage light on it) and a seperate 15 am circuit
> for the refridgerator and microwave. Currently I have 2 20 amp circuits
> supplying the existing stuff, so I know I'll never, with the extra cans,
> run into even 50% of a 60 amp sub - and I'd be taking the 2 20's out of
> the 100 amp fuse box). I'm redoing the kitchen so want to add 5
> additional circuts to the fuse box which is "full". Though I have
> plenty of "overhead" left and the sub-panel solution would work. But
> I'm thinking I'm going to have to bite the bullet some time so this
> might be the time.
>

Have you run out of capacity, or just run out of spaces? (have to do a
load analysis to really answer that) If just the former, and after
rereading your post I'm pretty sure it is, install a 100A main-lug load
panel next to the breaker box. Either tap it into the main bus after
the main fuses, or run it off the dryer or range fuse with 75A fuses and
move the dryer or range circuit to the new subpanel. (the dryer circuit
will probably be easier) If the dryer or range circuit is 3 wires
instead of 4, it cannot be fed from a subpanel; you'd have to convert it
to 4 wires (or ignore this rule, which I'm not recommending)

Bob

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