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Urgent: Help Needed With Insulation Problem Jimbo 06-13-2005
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Posted by Jimbo on June 13, 2005, 10:06 am
I have a 960 square foot un-insulated hobby shop that was originally a flat
roofed foundry constructed of cinder block. Years ago I put a regular
peaked roof on the building rather than repair the flat roof. We have just
started framing in and insulating the inside of the shop with moisture
resistant Fibre Batt insulation and plastic vapor barrier and the plastic
vapor barrier is glued to every beam with beads of caulking compound to
insure a good seal.

It's been very humid here for the last week and my problem is we now have
moisture dripping down the inside of the vapor barrier. I'm getting all
kinds of different and conflicting advise including the option of applying
tar paper on the block wall before framing and insulating the wall. I also
know that the residential building code in my area requires venting that
runs from the wall cavity up to the attic but in this case trying to cut and
run vents up through the flat roof of this old building into the roof cavity
would be a massive undertaking. The way I look at it if the building still
had a flat roof and venting was not possible there must be an accepable and
code legal way of eliminating all the moisture build up.

Any help will be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Jimbo



Posted by Jimbo on June 13, 2005, 10:16 am
Correction:

Our local code doesn't require venting from wall cavity to the attic (don't
know what I was thinking) I was thinking about the plastic vents we
installed in the attic to allow air flow up from the soffet and facia.

Jimbo


>I have a 960 square foot un-insulated hobby shop that was originally a flat
>roofed foundry constructed of cinder block. Years ago I put a regular
>peaked roof on the building rather than repair the flat roof. We have just
>started framing in and insulating the inside of the shop with moisture
>resistant Fibre Batt insulation and plastic vapor barrier and the plastic
>vapor barrier is glued to every beam with beads of caulking compound to
>insure a good seal.
>
> It's been very humid here for the last week and my problem is we now have
> moisture dripping down the inside of the vapor barrier. I'm getting all
> kinds of different and conflicting advise including the option of
> applying tar paper on the block wall before framing and insulating the
> wall. I also know that the residential building code in my area requires
> venting that runs from the wall cavity up to the attic but in this case
> trying to cut and run vents up through the flat roof of this old building
> into the roof cavity would be a massive undertaking. The way I look at it
> if the building still had a flat roof and venting was not possible there
> must be an accepable and code legal way of eliminating all the moisture
> build up.
>
> Any help will be appreciated
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jimbo
>



Posted by Goedjn on June 13, 2005, 11:37 am

>would be a massive undertaking. The way I look at it if the building still
>had a flat roof and venting was not possible there must be an accepable and
>code legal way of eliminating all the moisture build up.
>
>Any help will be appreciated
>

Well, running a dehumidifier will work, until you come up with
a better idea, but if the indoor temperature is cooler than
the outdoor temperature, and it's humid out, then any air coming
in is going to drop water SOMEWHERE. Best I can think of
is to limit air infiltration, and try to control where
"somewhere" is.

Posted by bubba on June 13, 2005, 11:53 am
vapor barrier is only a good idea in areas that have A/C or a dehumidifier,
otherwise vapor barrier no good

either house has to breathe, or else be dehumidified some way

or else, you could always just move to Arizona



Posted by Jimbo on June 13, 2005, 12:48 pm
I stand to be corrected but if the moisture is behind the sealed vapor
barrier it has to be coming through the block walls of my shop. A
dehumidifier only removes moisture from inside the building not water on the
inside of a wall covered with vapor barrier and drywall. As far as not
installing a vapor barrier that's not an option because those of us living
in the North know that a vapor barrier is a must if you want to cut heating
bills and protect your building from rot and fungus.

Jimbo


> vapor barrier is only a good idea in areas that have A/C or a
> dehumidifier, otherwise vapor barrier no good
>
> either house has to breathe, or else be dehumidified some way
>
> or else, you could always just move to Arizona
>



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