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Use of Gas Logs during the night? and as a sole heat source.. Stevey Sandlin 09-24-2006
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Posted by Stevey Sandlin on September 24, 2006, 8:26 pm
I was thinking of getting some gas logs since my utility bills are so
high. I have some gas logs that look good but give out little to no
heat.

I was wondering if anyone used VENTLESS GAS LOGS to heat their entire
home and if so, did they go to sleep with it on? I guess I am a bit
paranoid, even though my grandparents use to use an open flamed heater
for their only heat source. I am sure it was not ventless, but they
never had a window open and it didn't kill them.

However, I have taken care of people that had CO2 poisoning or
respiratory distress from using Kerosene.

My plan was to use the Ventless logs to heat up the den which is the
main room in the house. It is at the base of the stairs so the heat
should flow to the upstairs. I don't know if it would work or not.
My current set of logs uses a lot of gas with little heat output.
I compared them to a set of Ventless logs (at a FOAFOAF house) and
their ventless logs heated a room the size of my den in under 3 mins.
My logs will not even heat the room ( but they do look nice.)

I also have an air intake in the side of my fireplace. Would it be a
good idea to keep it open with ventless logs or is it not needed.

Any advice, both practical and academic would be most appreciated.

SS

Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on September 24, 2006, 10:34 pm

> I was wondering if anyone used VENTLESS GAS LOGS to heat their entire
> home and if so, did they go to sleep with it on? I guess I am a bit
> paranoid, even though my grandparents use to use an open flamed heater
> for their only heat source. I am sure it was not ventless, but they
> never had a window open and it didn't kill them.

What does the manufacturer say about them? You certainly won't hear me give
you the OK not knowing the specifics of the logs and their ratings.

>
> I also have an air intake in the side of my fireplace. Would it be a
> good idea to keep it open with ventless logs or is it not needed.
>
> Any advice, both practical and academic would be most appreciated.

Any advice on using a product we know nothing about is dumb and potentially
dangerous. Refer to the manufacturer.

What is going to take pace that will save you money? What is the fuel for
your central heat now? Why will this save anything? It may end up costing
you more.

There are a few reasons to use the gas logs.
They look pretty
They heat the room you are occupying while the rest of the house is kept
cooler
They can usually still be used if there is a power failure

Gas logs are not designed to heat an entire house. Ventless are usually
very efficient compared to a furnace, but they have drawbacks, like uneven
distribution. They are not designed for the use you intend.



Posted by Joseph Meehan on September 25, 2006, 7:54 am
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> message
>> I was wondering if anyone used VENTLESS GAS LOGS to heat their entire
>> home and if so, did they go to sleep with it on? I guess I am a bit
>> paranoid, even though my grandparents use to use an open flamed
>> heater for their only heat source. I am sure it was not ventless,
>> but they never had a window open and it didn't kill them.
>
> What does the manufacturer say about them? You certainly won't hear
> me give you the OK not knowing the specifics of the logs and their
> ratings.
>>
>> I also have an air intake in the side of my fireplace. Would it be a
>> good idea to keep it open with ventless logs or is it not needed.
>>
>> Any advice, both practical and academic would be most appreciated.
>
> Any advice on using a product we know nothing about is dumb and
> potentially dangerous. Refer to the manufacturer.
>
> What is going to take pace that will save you money? What is the
> fuel for your central heat now? Why will this save anything? It may
> end up costing you more.
>
> There are a few reasons to use the gas logs.
> They look pretty
> They heat the room you are occupying while the rest of the house is
> kept cooler
> They can usually still be used if there is a power failure
>
> Gas logs are not designed to heat an entire house. Ventless are
> usually very efficient compared to a furnace, but they have
> drawbacks, like uneven distribution. They are not designed for the
> use you intend.

Note: modern gas furnaces are very efficient, I don't think you could
call whatever those logs could do as very efficient compared to a modern
high efficiency furnace.

I would not be comfortable using them for that use.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Posted by kevin on September 24, 2006, 11:25 pm

Stevey Sandlin wrote:
> I was thinking of getting some gas logs since my utility bills are so
> high. I have some gas logs that look good but give out little to no
> heat.

Maybe this is a silly question... but how will getting *gas* logs help
with your utility bills? Do you get free gas?

If not, then just get a gas furnace. It will be safer, easier to use,
more convenient, and more comfortable. Not to mention your primary
goal: much much more efficient use of your utility bill than a gas log
will ever be.

If your gas bills are too high, then throw out that horribly
inefficient, decorative gas log, and look into local prices for
kerosene, fuel oil, firewood, coal, etc. You may find by asking around
that, for example, firewood or coal could be cheaper, and you could
look into getting a woodstove or coal furnace.

=Kevin


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on September 24, 2006, 11:45 pm
saving money is awesome, but you must keep all parts of the home with
water and sewer lines above freezing.

plus frozen plaster can fall apart bad.

if you try heating with ventless do buy a couple carbon monoxide
detectors and low oxygen alarms.

plus you need fresh air intake at all times.

might be better to upgrade homes insulation...........


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