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Using 1" thick cedar decking okay? Ken Moiarty 06-13-2005
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Posted by Ken Moiarty on June 13, 2005, 3:19 pm
I'm trying to decide whether to go with inexpensive pressure-treated
evergreen wood decking or low cost 1" thick (approx.), radius edge, cedar
(which is must less expensive than standard patio grade cedar decking). I
kind of prefer the cedar option, but I'm unsure about whether it's wise to
go with cedar that is only half the thickness (hence, half the strength) as
standard patio grade cedar. My concern is not about safety per se so much
as it is about structural rigidity, solidness, etc. I don't want it to feel
like I'm 'bouncing on planks' when walking on the deck. Any suggestions,
advice, experiences? Thanks...

Ken



Posted by Chip C on June 13, 2005, 3:40 pm


Ken Moiarty wrote:
> I'm trying to decide whether to go with inexpensive pressure-treated
> evergreen wood decking or low cost 1" thick (approx.), radius edge, cedar
> (which is must less expensive than standard patio grade cedar decking). I
> kind of prefer the cedar option, but I'm unsure about whether it's wise to
> go with cedar that is only half the thickness (hence, half the strength) as
> standard patio grade cedar. My concern is not about safety per se so much
> as it is about structural rigidity, solidness, etc. I don't want it to feel
> like I'm 'bouncing on planks' when walking on the deck. Any suggestions,
> advice, experiences? Thanks...
>
> Ken

How thick exactly is this cedar, and (very importantly) what's your
joist spacing? There is stuff called 5/4 ("five-quarters") which is
very close to 1.25" thick and meant especially for decking on standard
(16"?) joist spacing. It is radius edge. If this is what you've got,
you should be fine. Nominal 1" planks will be probably 3/4 and probably
unsuitable, but I have not seem them in radius edge. I'm not sure what
you mean by "regular patio grade cedar", as the 5/4 stuff seems to be
"the" boards for decking. But it's been a while since I built a deck
and availability of lumber varies regionally.

On bouncy decks a lot of the problem is the substructure, so the
decking may be the least of your worries.

Some folks think that pressure-treated wood is death at 100 yds and
some think you can make tea with the sawdust from it. I figure that if
there's one place it's nice to avoid it it's where your kids might be
walking barefoot on it.

Chip C


Posted by Ken Moiarty on June 14, 2005, 1:35 pm
Chip wrote on 13 Jun 2005 12:40:13 -0700:


CC> How thick exactly is this cedar,

It's 5/4.

CC> and (very importantly) what's your joist spacing?

I intend to use 12" joist spacing.


Ken



Posted by Heathcliff on June 14, 2005, 4:19 pm
Ken Moiarty wrote:
> Chip wrote on 13 Jun 2005 12:40:13 -0700:
>
>
> CC> How thick exactly is this cedar,
>
> It's 5/4.
>
> CC> and (very importantly) what's your joist spacing?
>
> I intend to use 12" joist spacing.
>
>
> Ken

I used the 5/4 cedar on mine with 16" spacing and it was fine. 12"
joist spacing should give an exceptionally solid feel, at least as far
as the planking is concerned. You also need to consider the rest of
the substructure: joist spans, posts, and what the posts rest on.
There are plenty of books with guidelines on that if you're not already
familiar. The cedar is nice to work with and you can let it weather or
stain it, either way it should last a long time. You don't have to
worry if it's toxic when you kids drop their gummy bears on it then
pick'em up and eat'em.


Posted by Red Cloudİ on June 14, 2005, 1:46 pm

>
>
>Ken Moiarty wrote:
>> I'm trying to decide whether to go with inexpensive pressure-treated
>> evergreen wood decking or low cost 1" thick (approx.), radius edge, cedar
>> (which is must less expensive than standard patio grade cedar decking). I
>> kind of prefer the cedar option, but I'm unsure about whether it's wise to
>> go with cedar that is only half the thickness (hence, half the strength) as
>> standard patio grade cedar. My concern is not about safety per se so much
>> as it is about structural rigidity, solidness, etc. I don't want it to feel
>> like I'm 'bouncing on planks' when walking on the deck. Any suggestions,
>> advice, experiences? Thanks...
>>
>> Ken
>
>How thick exactly is this cedar, and (very importantly) what's your
>joist spacing? There is stuff called 5/4 ("five-quarters") which is
>very close to 1.25" thick and meant especially for decking on standard
>(16"?) joist spacing. It is radius edge. If this is what you've got,
>you should be fine. Nominal 1" planks will be probably 3/4 and probably
>unsuitable, but I have not seem them in radius edge. I'm not sure what
>you mean by "regular patio grade cedar", as the 5/4 stuff seems to be
>"the" boards for decking. But it's been a while since I built a deck
>and availability of lumber varies regionally.
>
>On bouncy decks a lot of the problem is the substructure, so the
>decking may be the least of your worries.
>
>Some folks think that pressure-treated wood is death at 100 yds and
>some think you can make tea with the sawdust from it. I figure that if
>there's one place it's nice to avoid it it's where your kids might be
>walking barefoot on it.
>
>Chip C

Splinters from pressure treated wood can be VERY problematic.

rusty redcloud

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