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Using #14 wire for one light on 20A breaker maradcliff 12-11-2006
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Posted by on December 11, 2006, 6:16 pm


On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:53:59 -0600, "Steve Barker LT"

>OH, but that would have cost $8.

Where can you buy 50 feet of 12-2 for $8. Please tell me. I'll but
100 rolls immediately.

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Posted by Steve Barker LT on December 11, 2006, 8:20 pm


No, he said he needed 16 feet. That's $8. You can buy it by the foot also.

--
Steve Barker


> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:53:59 -0600, "Steve Barker LT"
>
>>OH, but that would have cost $8.
>
> Where can you buy 50 feet of 12-2 for $8. Please tell me. I'll but
> 100 rolls immediately.



Posted by Don Klipstein on December 11, 2006, 7:04 pm


>maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
>> I am wondering how the code views this. I was just wiring my barn and
>> ran out of 12-2 romex. Rather than buy more, I decided to just use
>> 14-2 since I had 200 feet of it. This 14-2 is only going to one
>> light, one of those porcelin fixtures that are rated at 100W.
>>
>> As far as safety, I am not worried in the least. It's only going to
>> run one 100W bulb (or less). As far as being inspected, I am also not
>> worried. In barns and sheds they really dont care, unless there are
>> bare wires or some obvious danger source. I'm just curious how the
>> code views that? ...
>> In my case, I have one center light fed by #12, and one light on the
>> left another on the right. Each of those lights are fed off the
>> center light with about 16 feet of #14.
>
>If you don't care, why ask? :)
>
>By code, it's not up to snuff, because code is designed to protect the
>fixed wiring, not the fixtures or other end load. I agree it's not an
>inherent safety hazard as described as long as the use remains as is.
>
>I would be somewhat suprised if an inspection (assuming you're in a
>place where zoning applies and it will be inspected) didn't point it
>out as a deficiency, but that would be dependent on, as you say, what
>your local inspector's penchant/foibles is/are...
>
>Of course, you can easily alleviate the issue by putting a 15A breaker
>in the panel for that lighting circuit and be over-sized rather than
>under-sized in a portion of the circuit.
>
>Me being me, I'd probably have just got another roll of 12 and finished
>it out simply for the self-aesthetics of the job and knowing that
>eventually I'd use that roll for other stuff around the place, but
>again, that's just me having had to grow up under my grandpa and dad...
>:)

http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/bldginsp/residential/wiring.htm

Code actually requires all wiring in a branch circuit to be of the same
size. However, I cannot guarantee that this item is in the NEC as opposed
to being merely in a local building code. I am under the impression that
at least most items in that page are actually specified by NEC.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by Doug Miller on December 11, 2006, 7:20 pm


Klipstein) wrote:

>http://www.ci.longmont.co.us/bldginsp/residential/wiring.htm
>
> Code actually requires all wiring in a branch circuit to be of the same
>size. However, I cannot guarantee that this item is in the NEC as opposed
>to being merely in a local building code. I am under the impression that
>at least most items in that page are actually specified by NEC.

Must be a local code. The NEC specifies minimum requirements for conductor
sizes, but has no requirement I'm aware of that all conductors on a circuit be
the same size.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by Bill on December 11, 2006, 12:04 pm


Hummm... I just figured out why there are so many barn fires in which
insurance companies refuse to pay for damages!


>I am wondering how the code views this. I was just wiring my barn and
> ran out of 12-2 romex. Rather than buy more, I decided to just use
> 14-2 since I had 200 feet of it. This 14-2 is only going to one
> light, one of those porcelin fixtures that are rated at 100W.
>
> As far as safety, I am not worried in the least. It's only going to
> run one 100W bulb (or less). As far as being inspected, I am also not
> worried. In barns and sheds they really dont care, unless there are
> bare wires or some obvious danger source. I'm just curious how the
> code views that? For example, if I but a common house type ceiling
> fixture, they generally have 8 inches or up to several feet (on a
> chandlier) of #14 standed wire as part of the fixture. So, if I am
> running a 20A circuit I am already using #14 in the circuit.
>
> In my case, I have one center light fed by #12, and one light on the
> left another on the right. Each of those lights are fed off the
> center light with about 16 feet of #14.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark



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