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Using a union at a sillcock connection runderwo@mail.win.org 06-27-2007
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Posted by Meat Plow on June 28, 2007, 6:06 am
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:48:32 -0700, Joe wrote:

> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I've been having a lot of problems getting my new sillcock to thread
>> into the corresponding copper fitting
>
> <snip>
>
>> Ideas? Flames?
>
> Find a real honest-to-gosh hardware store and buy a 1/2" NPT pipe tap
> and a 1/2" NPT pipe die. Clean the threads up with each of these tools
> and they will work perfectly. If you have trouble assembling at the
> installation site, then you have an alignment problem that you didn't
> notice at first. Correct that and you're good to go. HTH
>

If this dude doesn't get this fixed ASAP I'm going to fly out to his home
and fix it for him :)





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Posted by runderwo@mail.win.org on June 28, 2007, 10:10 am
> Find a real honest-to-gosh hardware store and buy a 1/2" NPT pipe tap
> and a 1/2" NPT pipe die. Clean the threads up with each of these tools
> and they will work perfectly. If you have trouble assembling at the
> installation site, then you have an alignment problem that you didn't
> notice at first. Correct that and you're good to go. HTH

You were right, if you eyeballed into the hole everything looked like
it lined up, but the hole through the stud was not square, and coupled
with any displacement on the exterior wall it was enough to knock off
the alignment by about 1/2 inch. I knocked another piece of brick
out, put everything together again and I was done within the hour. No
leaks!!

I am guessing this is also the reason why the old sillcock had a bent
body, either the hole wasn't lined up to begin with and they beat it
into place, or the exterior wall settling knocked the holes out of
alignment and also gradually bent the sillcock as it settled.


Posted by runderwo@mail.win.org on June 28, 2007, 11:35 am
wrote:
>
> I knocked another piece of brick out

so I now have a hole the size about 1/4 to 1/3 of a brick. I was
thinking mortaring the hole is not a good idea if there is movement
(since that's what probably caused my problem to begin with), but the
idea of using Great stuff doesn't appeal to me because it's on the
front of the house. Anything in between, that will let the sillcock
shift in the hole over time but not look like a cheap fix?


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on June 28, 2007, 12:05 pm
runderwo@mail.win.org wrote:

> wrote:
>
>>I knocked another piece of brick out
>
>
> so I now have a hole the size about 1/4 to 1/3 of a brick. I was
> thinking mortaring the hole is not a good idea if there is movement
> (since that's what probably caused my problem to begin with), but the
> idea of using Great stuff doesn't appeal to me because it's on the
> front of the house. Anything in between, that will let the sillcock
> shift in the hole over time but not look like a cheap fix?
>

Would a plumbing escutcheon cover it up? You could stick it to the brick
with silicone adhesive:

http://www.plumbingsupply.com/escutch.html

They even have a "split" style if'n you don't want to unscrew the
sillcock again.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.


Posted by runderwo@mail.win.org on June 28, 2007, 4:57 pm
> runde...@mail.win.org wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >>I knocked another piece of brick out
>
> > so I now have a hole the size about 1/4 to 1/3 of a brick. I was
> > thinking mortaring the hole is not a good idea if there is movement
> > (since that's what probably caused my problem to begin with), but the
> > idea of using Great stuff doesn't appeal to me because it's on the
> > front of the house. Anything in between, that will let the sillcock
> > shift in the hole over time but not look like a cheap fix?
>
> Would a plumbing escutcheon cover it up? You could stick it to the brick
> with silicone adhesive:
>
> http://www.plumbingsupply.com/escutch.html
>
> They even have a "split" style if'n you don't want to unscrew the
> sillcock again.
>
> Jeff
>
> --
> Jeffry Wisnia
> (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
> The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight.

I didn't know they made split ones, that's cool. Then what I guess
I'll do is mortar some the larger pieces of brick back in, leaving 1"
all around the fixture for movement, use great stuff to fill the rest
and sand it down, and then use the split style from your link to cover
up the unsightly foam.

Excellent!


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