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Very small bath layout guidance jacy 08-20-2008
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Posted by on August 20, 2008, 8:58 pm


have a 975 SF raised ranch with one bath. Previous owners studded out
a 6x5 area in basement, directly below main level bath. I would like
to finish this area for a second 1.5 bath, however it would be
atrociously tight as-is. Have a quote from a plumber to core basement
floor and rough in plumbing for shower drain, toilet and sink.
Understandably, he wants to enlarge the area, which doesn't entail too
much demo as it's only finished on the exterior, which is exposed to
the open floor plan finished basement.

Where we're of a different opinion is which way to go. As you look at
the layout, I don't want to go to the left, as that's a nice little
workout area that really can't be made any smaller. Can't go to the
right without going a LOT to the right because there's a window almost
immediately beyond that right wall, so we'd have to go a good 4-1/2 to
5 feet or more to incorporate that entire window and that'd take too
much away from the main room, and make the bathroom larger than it
effectively needs to be.

I'd prefer bumping out the door wall, as it's really dead floor space
right now -- an 11' wide walkthrough area that could easily give up a
few feet. What do you think?

Part of the issue is the plumber doesn't speak English too well, I'm
heard of hearing and rely a lot on lip reading; a situation ripe for
miscommunication. (Yes, he's licensed, comes well recommended and I've
seen his work.) He's a great plumber but perhaps not so much a
designer. I have a very reliable and skilled handyman to help with the
finish work, but again, design skills...?

The layout below is a very rough prelim sketch done by me. It'll be
tight no matter how you slice it -- there's no getting around that,
but it is what it is: a small bath in a small house -- no shame in
that.

I'm a single mom of three teenagers and proud owner of a very limited
budget. We're desperate for a second bath of any size, and just trying
to make the most of what we have to work with. Any recommendations
much appreciated!

Thanks,
~Jacy

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Posted by Pat on August 20, 2008, 10:26 pm



> have a 975 SF raised ranch with one bath. Previous owners studded out
> a 6x5 area in basement, directly below main level bath. I would like
> to finish this area for a second 1.5 bath, however it would be
> atrociously tight as-is. Have a quote from a plumber to core basement
> floor and rough in plumbing for shower drain, toilet and sink.
> Understandably, he wants to enlarge the area, which doesn't entail too
> much demo as it's only finished on the exterior, which is exposed to
> the open floor plan finished basement.
>
> Where we're of a different opinion is which way to go. As you look at
> the layout, I don't want to go to the left, as that's a nice little
> workout area that really can't be made any smaller. Can't go to the
> right without going a LOT to the right because there's a window almost
> immediately beyond that right wall, so we'd have to go a good 4-1/2 to
> 5 feet or more to incorporate that entire window and that'd take too
> much away from the main room, and make the bathroom larger than it
> effectively needs to be.
>
> I'd prefer bumping out the door wall, as it's really dead floor space
> right now -- an 11' wide walkthrough area that could easily give up a
> few feet. What do you think?
>
> Part of the issue is the plumber doesn't speak English too well, I'm
> heard of hearing and rely a lot on lip reading; a situation ripe for
> miscommunication. (Yes, he's licensed, comes well recommended and I've
> seen his work.) He's a great plumber but perhaps not so much a
> designer. I have a very reliable and skilled handyman to help with the
> finish work, but again, design skills...?
>
> The layout below is a very rough prelim sketch done by me. It'll be
> tight no matter how you slice it -- there's no getting around that,
> but it is what it is: a small bath in a small house -- no shame in
> that.
>
> I'm a single mom of three teenagers and proud owner of a very limited
> budget. We're desperate for a second bath of any size, and just trying
> to make the most of what we have to work with. Any recommendations
> much appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> ~Jacy
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/jmeander/House/photo#5236751922438373986


The smallest full bath with tub, toliet and sink is generally recognized to
be 5X7. Inside dimensions not including wall thickness. Your plumber may
be striving for this size. This bathroom could be rotated 90 degrees and
fit into your space as well. Using a shower instead of a tub will require a
larger bathroom. The shower requires 37 inches of depth where a tub only
needs 30 inches.







Posted by on August 20, 2008, 11:01 pm



>The smallest full bath with tub, toliet and sink is generally recognized to
>be 5X7. Inside dimensions not including wall thickness. Your plumber may
>be striving for this size. This bathroom could be rotated 90 degrees and
>fit into your space as well. Using a shower instead of a tub will require a
>larger bathroom. The shower requires 37 inches of depth where a tub only
>needs 30 inches.

Interesting. As it never even crossed my mind to put a tub in the
basement I never measured for one. I did go stand inside one of those
32x32 stalls at HD and was quickly reminded of childhood summer
camping vacations and flimsy steel stalls. Even the 36" neo-angles
seem too snug. Yet my upstairs tub/shower seems fine at 30". Probably
because I'm bumping fabric rather than glass.

The thought of cleaning another tub, though...

What does a 36x42 shower base require in the way of true depth? I'm
looking at cultured granite (have it upstairs and love its easy
maintenance) and that's one of the standard double-threshold base
sizes.

~J

Posted by Pat on August 20, 2008, 11:31 pm



>
>>The smallest full bath with tub, toliet and sink is generally recognized
>>to
>>be 5X7. Inside dimensions not including wall thickness. Your plumber may
>>be striving for this size. This bathroom could be rotated 90 degrees and
>>fit into your space as well. Using a shower instead of a tub will require
>>a
>>larger bathroom. The shower requires 37 inches of depth where a tub only
>>needs 30 inches.
>
> Interesting. As it never even crossed my mind to put a tub in the
> basement I never measured for one. I did go stand inside one of those
> 32x32 stalls at HD and was quickly reminded of childhood summer
> camping vacations and flimsy steel stalls. Even the 36" neo-angles
> seem too snug. Yet my upstairs tub/shower seems fine at 30". Probably
> because I'm bumping fabric rather than glass.
>
> The thought of cleaning another tub, though...
>
> What does a 36x42 shower base require in the way of true depth? I'm
> looking at cultured granite (have it upstairs and love its easy
> maintenance) and that's one of the standard double-threshold base
> sizes.
>
> ~J

A shower requires 36 inches of depth. However it needs to be surrounded on
3 sides with walls. I like the shower to recess slightly into these walls.
So I make the recess for the shower to fit into about 37" deep. Generally
you must leave about 30 inches of space in front of the shower for access
and door space. The minimum width for a shower is 3 feet plus walls. I
like 4 feet plus walls so my wife can get in with me sometimes. I don't
recommend any shower smaller than 3 feet by 3 feet.



Posted by Pat on August 20, 2008, 11:57 pm



>
>>The smallest full bath with tub, toliet and sink is generally recognized
>>to
>>be 5X7. Inside dimensions not including wall thickness. Your plumber may
>>be striving for this size. This bathroom could be rotated 90 degrees and
>>fit into your space as well. Using a shower instead of a tub will require
>>a
>>larger bathroom. The shower requires 37 inches of depth where a tub only
>>needs 30 inches.
>
> Interesting. As it never even crossed my mind to put a tub in the
> basement I never measured for one. I did go stand inside one of those
> 32x32 stalls at HD and was quickly reminded of childhood summer
> camping vacations and flimsy steel stalls. Even the 36" neo-angles
> seem too snug. Yet my upstairs tub/shower seems fine at 30". Probably
> because I'm bumping fabric rather than glass.
>
> The thought of cleaning another tub, though...
>
> What does a 36x42 shower base require in the way of true depth? I'm
> looking at cultured granite (have it upstairs and love its easy
> maintenance) and that's one of the standard double-threshold base
> sizes.
>
> ~J

Here is a page with planning guidelines
http://www.nkba.org/guidelines/bathroom.aspx



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