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Vinyl Windows - Cost ??? roger61611 05-08-2008
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Posted by DerbyDad03 on May 9, 2008, 10:05 am
On May 8, 7:16=A0pm, roger61...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm in the midwest US and looking to replace my aluminum windows with
> vinyl custom-made argon low-e. =A0I don't know pricing - can anyone help
> with a guesstimate on window price with installation for a roughly 4'
> x 4' opening ? =A0Remove the old aluminum, haul it away, install new
> custom-sized vinyl and caulk it.
>
> Or, if you have specifics - a custom vinyl window with a pane in the
> middle and sliders on each side, opening is 8' wide and 20" tall.
>
> House is brick. =A0Vinyl windows are considered high-end for this
> neighborhood.
>
> I don't mind paying for a decent job but I got nothing to go on and
> it's a PITA to get quotes.

You can sometimes judge a company by what they ask *you* when you ask
for a quote.

How long will you be remaining the house?
What's your house worth?
How much insulation is in the rest of the house?
Will you want to open the screens or just the windows?
How much glass area are you willing to give up compared to what you
have today?

If they just walk up and offer you a price for new windows, then
they're just selling a product as opposed to solving a problem.

And for every question they ask you, ask them why they want to know. A
clear concise explanation of why they want that information will help
you judge the quality of the contractor.

Ask them about the construction of the windows - welded seams vs.
mechanical fasteners, metal shoes vs. plastic, removable sashes vs.
just tiltable, full screens vs half, movable screens vs fixed, etc

If they can't answer those questions, then the proper word is "Next!"

There's a ton of factors to consider and the way the contractor
responds to your questions should lead you towards someone your
comfortable working with.

Posted by ransley on May 9, 2008, 10:30 am
> On May 8, 7:16=A0pm, roger61...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I'm in the midwest US and looking to replace my aluminum windows with
> > vinyl custom-made argon low-e. =A0I don't know pricing - can anyone help=

> > with a guesstimate on window price with installation for a roughly 4'
> > x 4' opening ? =A0Remove the old aluminum, haul it away, install new
> > custom-sized vinyl and caulk it.
>
> > Or, if you have specifics - a custom vinyl window with a pane in the
> > middle and sliders on each side, opening is 8' wide and 20" tall.
>
> > House is brick. =A0Vinyl windows are considered high-end for this
> > neighborhood.
>
> > I don't mind paying for a decent job but I got nothing to go on and
> > it's a PITA to get quotes.
>
> You can sometimes judge a company by what they ask *you* when you ask
> for a quote.
>
> How long will you be remaining the house?
> What's your house worth?
> How much insulation is in the rest of the house?
> Will you want to open the screens or just the windows?
> How much glass area are you willing to give up compared to what you
> have today?
>
> If they just walk up and offer you a price for new windows, then
> they're just selling a product as opposed to solving a problem.
>
> And for every question they ask you, ask them why they want to know. A
> clear concise explanation of why they want that information will help
> you judge the quality of the contractor.
>
> Ask them about the construction of the windows - welded seams vs.
> mechanical fasteners, metal shoes vs. plastic, removable sashes vs.
> just tiltable, full screens vs half, movable screens vs fixed, etc
>
> If they can't answer those questions, then the proper word is "Next!"
>
> There's a ton of factors to consider and the way the contractor
> responds to your questions should lead you towards someone your
> comfortable working with.

If they are not "Energy Star" certified and have complete independant
prformance tests then they still are not up to the best standards. In
sliders name brands like Marvin , Anderson, Pella are of proven
quality.

Posted by BETA-35 on May 9, 2008, 2:22 pm
I am in New Jersey and have been pricing replacement windows. The price is
the cost of the window plus the cost to install it.

One contractor I know charges $110 per window for the installation. Another
charges $100 per window for the installation. That's the labor -- not
including the cost of the actual window. That includes rip-out and removal,
installation of the new window, all of the capping and or caulking, etc. By
the way, any aluminum you have can be put at the curb in front of your house
and it will be gone within a few hours at the most. People driving by just
pick it up because they can sell it for recycling.

The cost to purchase the windows varies. I see some at Home Depot and Lowes
for roughly $150/window (+/-), depending on the size and quality. The cost
for me to order them from a window supply place near me is about the same.

So, I'm figuring about $250 to $300 total cost per window to have vinyl
replacement windows installed.

> I'm in the midwest US and looking to replace my aluminum windows with
> vinyl custom-made argon low-e. I don't know pricing - can anyone help
> with a guesstimate on window price with installation for a roughly 4'
> x 4' opening ? Remove the old aluminum, haul it away, install new
> custom-sized vinyl and caulk it.
>
> Or, if you have specifics - a custom vinyl window with a pane in the
> middle and sliders on each side, opening is 8' wide and 20" tall.
>
> House is brick. Vinyl windows are considered high-end for this
> neighborhood.
>
> I don't mind paying for a decent job but I got nothing to go on and
> it's a PITA to get quotes.



Posted by DerbyDad03 on May 9, 2008, 4:02 pm
> I am in New Jersey and have been pricing replacement windows. =A0The price=
is
> the cost of the window plus the cost to install it.
>
> One contractor I know charges $110 per window for the installation. =A0Ano=
ther
> charges $100 per window for the installation. =A0That's the labor -- not
> including the cost of the actual window. =A0That includes rip-out and remo=
val,
> installation of the new window, all of the capping and or caulking, etc. =
=A0By
> the way, any aluminum you have can be put at the curb in front of your hou=
se
> and it will be gone within a few hours at the most. =A0People driving by j=
ust
> pick it up because they can sell it for recycling.
>
> The cost to purchase the windows varies. =A0I see some at Home Depot and L=
owes
> for roughly $150/window (+/-), depending on the size and quality. =A0The c=
ost
> for me to order them from a window supply place near me is about the same.=

>
> So, I'm figuring about $250 to $300 total cost per window to have vinyl
> replacement windows installed.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm in the midwest US and looking to replace my aluminum windows with
> > vinyl custom-made argon low-e. =A0I don't know pricing - can anyone help=

> > with a guesstimate on window price with installation for a roughly 4'
> > x 4' opening ? =A0Remove the old aluminum, haul it away, install new
> > custom-sized vinyl and caulk it.
>
> > Or, if you have specifics - a custom vinyl window with a pane in the
> > middle and sliders on each side, opening is 8' wide and 20" tall.
>
> > House is brick. =A0Vinyl windows are considered high-end for this
> > neighborhood.
>
> > I don't mind paying for a decent job but I got nothing to go on and
> > it's a PITA to get quotes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just because the cost at a home center is the same as the cost at a
window supply house, you might not be getting a window of equal
quality.

While it's hard to do a perfect 1-to-1 comparison across multiple
brands, it appeared to me that at each price point, the windows from
the contractor supply house were one step above the windows from the
home center.

In other words, the supply house didn't carry anything that matched
the "in stock" window from the home center. Their least expensive
window matched the first level upgrade at the home center, but the
price was the same as the home centers in stock window. Plus, I got to
talk one-on-one with people in the business and recieved a lot of
valuable advice.

Posted by cshenk on May 9, 2008, 4:40 pm
"DerbyDad03" wrote

>Just because the cost at a home center is the same as the cost at a
>window supply house, you might not be getting a window of equal
>quality.

Exactly. And I'll add that for most of us (one house, living there for
years and years), price cutting in reasonable ways is ok but you want a
higher quality product if you can afford it.

A person fixing a rental unit is not quite as concerned with the
heating/cooling factors of a window unless the place comes with that as part
of the rent. They may be more concerned with how strongly the unit is
constructed though so as to last through poor tenant practices. A homeowner
will be gentle with their own windows, a renter will not be because if it
breaks, 'it's someone elses problem to fix it'.



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