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Vinyl sheet floor in kitchen popping up in rectangular pattern lotofun61@yahoo.com 02-11-2007
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Posted by lotofun61@yahoo.com on February 11, 2007, 11:58 am


We recently moved into our house, which was built in 1974. The vinyl
sheet floor in the kitchen looks to be original. The flooring seems
to be lifting up along a rectangular pattern, with lines making 4 foot
squares (approximately). Any thoughts about what might be causing
this? The floor is pretty ugly, so we were thinking of replacing it
anyway...maybe this will be the straw that tips us into doing that
project.

Thanks!


Posted by DanG on February 11, 2007, 12:28 pm


We would need to know whether this is a concrete slab house, a
basement, or a crawl space.

It sounds like some type of underlayment was used. Plywood sheets
are 4'x8'. Underlayment would usually indicate that the floor had
been retiled. There is a chance that the original flooring was
laid over 1 1/8" decking and the joints are telegraphing, but
would not explain a 4x4 pattern.

The sky is probably not falling, but age is showing.

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> We recently moved into our house, which was built in 1974. The
> vinyl
> sheet floor in the kitchen looks to be original. The flooring
> seems
> to be lifting up along a rectangular pattern, with lines making
> 4 foot
> squares (approximately). Any thoughts about what might be
> causing
> this? The floor is pretty ugly, so we were thinking of
> replacing it
> anyway...maybe this will be the straw that tips us into doing
> that
> project.
>
> Thanks!
>



Posted by Lot-o-fun on February 11, 2007, 1:24 pm


wrote:

> We would need to know whether this is a concrete slab house, a
> basement, or a crawl space.
>
> It sounds like some type of underlayment was used. Plywood sheets
> are 4'x8'. Underlayment would usually indicate that the floor had
> been retiled. There is a chance that the original flooring was
> laid over 1 1/8" decking and the joints are telegraphing, but
> would not explain a 4x4 pattern.
>
> The sky is probably not falling, but age is showing.

This floor is in the kitchen on the top floor of a raised ranch with
living space (bedroom & bathroom) underneath.

Does that change your thoughts?

Thanks again!!

Posted by DK on February 11, 2007, 2:28 pm


wrote:

>wrote:
>
>> We would need to know whether this is a concrete slab house, a
>> basement, or a crawl space.
>>
>> It sounds like some type of underlayment was used. Plywood sheets
>> are 4'x8'. Underlayment would usually indicate that the floor had
>> been retiled. There is a chance that the original flooring was
>> laid over 1 1/8" decking and the joints are telegraphing, but
>> would not explain a 4x4 pattern.
>>
>> The sky is probably not falling, but age is showing.
>
>This floor is in the kitchen on the top floor of a raised ranch with
>living space (bedroom & bathroom) underneath.
>
>Does that change your thoughts?
>
>Thanks again!!

You need to worry about moisture. Moisture causes swelling of the
subfloor.

Spend the extra time and money to put in a completely new subfloor
before you tile. During the process, look for water leaks.





Posted by EXT on February 11, 2007, 2:05 pm


A lot of underlay comes in 4 x 4 sheets. Sounds like it is starting to curl,
swell or come loose. In the early 70's they often used particle board,
hardboard and/or other plywoods. Caution in replacing it with Luan plywoods,
some brands will not warranty vinyl installed over it, apparently the
pigment in the wood can cause stains to bleed through the vinyl.

> We recently moved into our house, which was built in 1974. The vinyl
> sheet floor in the kitchen looks to be original. The flooring seems
> to be lifting up along a rectangular pattern, with lines making 4 foot
> squares (approximately). Any thoughts about what might be causing
> this? The floor is pretty ugly, so we were thinking of replacing it
> anyway...maybe this will be the straw that tips us into doing that
> project.
>
> Thanks!
>



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