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Water Softener Question rodney_morgan 09-07-2007
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Posted by on September 7, 2007, 2:39 pm
I have always had a lot of iron in my well water. This resulted
in toilet bowl and clean clothes always turning red. Oddly enough the
red (from what I was told) is actually caused by a type of bacteria
that likes the dissolved iron levels not caused by rust. Anyhow, my
water otherwise is very soft just about no dissolved calcium or other
minerals. Currently I rent a softener from Culligan for close to
25.00 a month. I would like to buy my own softener to do away with
this monthly bill. Culligan told me the softener they installed is
better at cleaning up iron then ordinary store bought softeners.
Since they could be slightly biased I am wondering if any readers have
a similar experience and if a normal 30,000 grain Kenmore softener
will work just as well. My house is 1 bedroom with two occupants so
30,000 grain should be plenty.

Thanks


Posted by Bill on September 8, 2007, 4:21 pm
Get a sample of water prior to the existing softener tested. Find out how
much iron is in it / how hard it is. Get a softener from whoever - HD ,
Lowes, Sears, etc (they are practically ALL made by Ecowater no matter who's
name is on the box) - that says it can handle whatever hardness and iron
level your water has been measured at. No magic about it.
> I have always had a lot of iron in my well water. This resulted
> in toilet bowl and clean clothes always turning red. Oddly enough the
> red (from what I was told) is actually caused by a type of bacteria
> that likes the dissolved iron levels not caused by rust. Anyhow, my
> water otherwise is very soft just about no dissolved calcium or other
> minerals. Currently I rent a softener from Culligan for close to
> 25.00 a month. I would like to buy my own softener to do away with
> this monthly bill. Culligan told me the softener they installed is
> better at cleaning up iron then ordinary store bought softeners.
> Since they could be slightly biased I am wondering if any readers have
> a similar experience and if a normal 30,000 grain Kenmore softener
> will work just as well. My house is 1 bedroom with two occupants so
> 30,000 grain should be plenty.
>
> Thanks
>



Posted by Gary Slusser on September 9, 2007, 1:05 pm
On Sep 7, 2:39 pm, rodney_mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
> I have always had a lot of iron in my well water. This resulted
> in toilet bowl and clean clothes always turning red. Oddly enough the
> red (from what I was told) is actually caused by a type of bacteria
> that likes the dissolved iron levels not caused by rust. Anyhow, my
> water otherwise is very soft just about no dissolved calcium or other
> minerals. Currently I rent asoftenerfrom Culligan for close to
> 25.00 a month. I would like to buy my ownsoftenerto do away with
> this monthly bill. Culligan told me thesoftenerthey installed is
> better at cleaning up iron then ordinary store bought softeners.
> Since they could be slightly biased I am wondering if any readers have
> a similar experience and if a normal 30,000 grain Kenmoresoftener
> will work just as well. My house is 1 bedroom with two occupants so
> 30,000 grain should be plenty.
>
> Thanks

No softener will remove IRB (iron reducing bacteria), you have to kill
the bacteria and then filter the water to remove the rust (ferric, red
water iron). None of the big box store brands are very good quality.
They only last 2-5 years before they break and they don't work well
for 'high' iron.

You can't beat a softener using the Clack WS-1 control valve.
Especially if you want to be able to repair it yourself when needed.
It is the easiest and fastest to repair and has the lowest priced
parts. The only tool you need to completely rebuild it is a pair of
slip joint pliers and you can do that and have the water back on in
roughly 30 minutes. That's if you can use a pair of pliers and read
English while you look at the pictures showing you how to do it.

Gary Slusser
Quality Water Associates


Posted by Dottie on September 9, 2007, 3:11 pm
> On Sep 7, 2:39 pm, rodney_mor...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > I have always had a lot of iron in my well water. This resulted
> > in toilet bowl and clean clothes always turning red. Oddly enough the
> > red (from what I was told) is actually caused by a type of bacteria
> > that likes the dissolved iron levels not caused by rust. Anyhow, my
> > water otherwise is very soft just about no dissolved calcium or other
> > minerals. Currently I rent asoftenerfrom Culligan for close to
> > 25.00 a month. I would like to buy my ownsoftenerto do away with
> > this monthly bill. Culligan told me thesoftenerthey installed is
> > better at cleaning up iron then ordinary store bought softeners.
> > Since they could be slightly biased I am wondering if any readers have
> > a similar experience and if a normal 30,000 grain Kenmoresoftener
> > will work just as well. My house is 1 bedroom with two occupants so
> > 30,000 grain should be plenty.
>
> > Thanks
>
> No softener will remove IRB (iron reducing bacteria), you have to kill
> the bacteria and then filter the water to remove the rust (ferric, red
> water iron). None of the big box store brands are very good quality.
> They only last 2-5 years before they break and they don't work well
> for 'high' iron.
>
> You can't beat a softener using the Clack WS-1 control valve.
> Especially if you want to be able to repair it yourself when needed.
> It is the easiest and fastest to repair and has the lowest priced
> parts. The only tool you need to completely rebuild it is a pair of
> slip joint pliers and you can do that and have the water back on in
> roughly 30 minutes. That's if you can use a pair of pliers and read
> English while you look at the pictures showing you how to do it.
>
> Gary Slusser
> Quality Water Associates


We live in FL where there is a lot of rust in the ground water. There
are a lot of wells around us that people use for their sprinkler
systems and you can see the red stains on the driveway and side of the
house. We have a water softener,(GE) that we've had for about three
years now....before that we had another brand. Anyway we don't have a
problem with rust stains in laundry or anything like that ... but we
do see a pink ring around the water in the toilet bowl, no matter how
often it is flushed. It's caused by the bacteria in the water. It's
the only place we see it. My husband installed the water softener and
I think if he can do it, most anybody can...when it's replacing one
with another.


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