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Water Softeners Walter R. 08-10-2008
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Posted by Walter R. on August 10, 2008, 2:12 pm


There is surprisingly little info on water softeners on Google. With most
water sources being on the hard side, I would expect a great deal of info on
ways to soften water. There is a very large number of websites which pitch
obvious frauds at high prices, such as magnetic water softeners and "ion"
softeners. Never seen anything like it.

Anyway, I would like to install a real "salt-type" water softener to combat
our hard water. Home Depot only sells a GE miniature water softener for $
449, Lowes sells a Whirlpool for $ 427. That's all in the local area (San
Diego).

The only other reputable looking brand that I could find on the web is the
Fleck 5600 series of water softeners. However, there is no factory website
for this brand.

My plumber offered to replace my old, broken down softener with a Fleck for
$ 2,050, which seems excessive, considering that the unit costs only about $
400. (Very little plumbing adjustment required.) Another rip-off.

Are fewer people using/installing water softeners? Maybe I can draw on the
experience on other people in this Group?

Thanks for any input.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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Posted by on August 10, 2008, 2:19 pm


> There is surprisingly little info on water softeners on Google. With most
> water sources being on the hard side, I would expect a great deal of info=
on
> ways to soften water. There is a very large number of websites which pitc=
h
> obvious frauds at high prices, such as magnetic water softeners and "ion"
> softeners. Never seen anything like it.
>
> Anyway, I would like to install a real "salt-type" water softener to comb=
at
> our hard water. Home Depot only sells a GE miniature water softener for $
> 449, Lowes sells a Whirlpool for $ 427. That's all in the local area (San
> Diego).
>
> The only other reputable looking brand that I could find on the web is th=
e
> Fleck 5600 series of water softeners. However, there is no factory websit=
e
> for this brand.
>
> My plumber offered to replace my old, broken down softener with a Fleck f=
or
> $ 2,050, which seems excessive, considering that the unit costs only abou=
t $
> 400. (Very little plumbing adjustment required.) Another rip-off.
>
> Are fewer people using/installing water softeners? =A0Maybe I can draw on=
the
> experience on other people in this Group?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> --
> Walterwww.rationality.net
> -

How hard is your water? What other contaminates may be in it?

Posted by Walter R. on August 10, 2008, 3:13 pm


Hardness is about 15 grains. Comes from the Colorado River: Too thick to
drink, too thin to plow. No other problems.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
-
> There is surprisingly little info on water softeners on Google. With most
> water sources being on the hard side, I would expect a great deal of info
> on
> ways to soften water. There is a very large number of websites which pitch
> obvious frauds at high prices, such as magnetic water softeners and "ion"
> softeners. Never seen anything like it.
>
> Anyway, I would like to install a real "salt-type" water softener to
> combat
> our hard water. Home Depot only sells a GE miniature water softener for $
> 449, Lowes sells a Whirlpool for $ 427. That's all in the local area (San
> Diego).
>
> The only other reputable looking brand that I could find on the web is the
> Fleck 5600 series of water softeners. However, there is no factory website
> for this brand.
>
> My plumber offered to replace my old, broken down softener with a Fleck
> for
> $ 2,050, which seems excessive, considering that the unit costs only about
> $
> 400. (Very little plumbing adjustment required.) Another rip-off.
>
> Are fewer people using/installing water softeners? Maybe I can draw on the
> experience on other people in this Group?
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> --
> Walterwww.rationality.net
> -

How hard is your water? What other contaminates may be in it?



Posted by nospam on August 10, 2008, 3:41 pm


> Hardness is about 15 grains. Comes from the Colorado River: Too thick to
> drink, too thin to plow. No other problems.

Stick with the Fleck 5600. It's by far the most widely used and
reliable control head in the home water softener market.

Get a unit that does not have the media tank inside the salt tank.
Separate tanks are much easier to clean and service.

Has your water been tested for total alkalinity?





Posted by Oren on August 10, 2008, 4:42 pm


On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 12:41:37 -0700, "nospam"

>> Hardness is about 15 grains. Comes from the Colorado River: Too thick to
>> drink, too thin to plow. No other problems.
>
>Stick with the Fleck 5600. It's by far the most widely used and
>reliable control head in the home water softener market.
>
>Get a unit that does not have the media tank inside the salt tank.
>Separate tanks are much easier to clean and service.
>

Newer Fleck 5600 have metal (SS?) bypass valves and handles.

Models around 1995 were breakable at the handle turn off.

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