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Posted by Scott Townsend on July 8, 2007, 12:19 pm
Thank you for your reply. It did seem like the non-salt softeners were kind
of black magic. Trying to get a hold of someone was also difficult. I have
yet to try to get a hold of a salt based softener company.
> Pick the right softener (not a box store brand), size it properly for
> your water conditions and usage and the SFR of your plumbing, and get
> a competent install and you should go 15-20 years.
We are trying to save money and do this ourselves. I've started the Plumbing
manifold and its partially up.
Here is a Schematic of my Setup:
http://tinyurl.com/27c2hz
here is a Picture. Its pretty close to the Schematic
http://tinyurl.com/2y5rcb
On the Right you can see where I have the hookup for the Filter/softener.
We are Softening and filtering the water as it goes into a Storage Tank, so
the demand/usage is low. The Plumbing from the Well through the
softener/filter to the tank is all 1 1/2" pipe. Though the well Cant supply
enough to keep that pipe happy, its only about 5-7 GPM.
Do you have a Recommendation on a Softener and filter?
> Check out this URL for one story <a href="http://www.nmsr.org/
> magnetic.htm"> http://www.nmsr.org/magnetic.htm </a> and there are
> many more on the net if you Google.
Okay I have a little pride here. When I saw the magnetic things I knew to
stay away from them.
> The MOST IMPORTANT thing is that water treatment begins with a
> complete water test so you know what needs to be treated or filtered
> out to get the quality water you want.
Our Water was tested with the following results:
Total Hardness 310 mg/L
pH 6.8
Specific Conductance 830 umhos/cm
maganese <20 ug/L
Iron 580 ug/L
Nitrate 7.0 mg/L
Thanks again!
Scott<-
> To "soften" water is to remove calcium (among other things like iron)
> from the water and that is commonly done by one of two methods.
>
> One method is ion exchange as done by a water softener. A water
> softener exchanges either sodium ions (if using NaCl) or potassium
> ions (if using KCl as a SALT SUBSTITUTE) for calcium (and other) ions
> in the hard water. That's it, no ifs, no ands, no buts, and no sales
> double talk. Simple chemistry and physics. Softening water is not
> black magic. It is physics and chemistry with a side of mechanics. No
> matter how hard sales people try (and want) to they can not violate
> the laws of physics or change the nature of chemical actions and
> reactions.
>
> The other is by a filter, but no simple filter will remove calcium.
> You would need a reverse osmosis unit large enough to service your
> entire house. You would not want to pay for that big an RO nor pay for
> the service and routine maintainence it would require and RO water
> would be very agressive in your plumbing and it would waste a lot of
> water.
>
> NO magnet(ic) gizmo or electronic gizmo or "conditioner" or carbon
> filter will soften water but people waste their money on them
> EVERYDAY.
>
> Check out this URL for one story <a href="http://www.nmsr.org/
> magnetic.htm"> http://www.nmsr.org/magnetic.htm </a> and there are
> many more on the net if you Google.
>
> Pick the right softener (not a box store brand), size it properly for
> your water conditions and usage and the SFR of your plumbing, and get
> a competent install and you should go 15-20 years.
>
> The MOST IMPORTANT thing is that water treatment begins with a
> complete water test so you know what needs to be treated or filtered
> out to get the quality water you want.
>
> If you want to know more about that "slimy feeling" that comes with
> soft water go here...
> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jul2001/996090332.Ch.r.html
>
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