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Water and sewer bills dependent on water supply pipe diameter Bud H 12-14-2007
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Posted by willshak on December 14, 2007, 3:11 pm
on 12/14/2007 2:32 PM Phisherman said the following:
> wrote:
>
>
>> "Bud H" wrote
>>
>>> After a check with my neighbors, it appears the city charges WAY more per
>>> cubic foot of water if you have a 1-inch diameter supply pipe coming into
>>> your house (and is where the city metering device is installed) than if a
>>> 5/8-inch diameter pipe is supplying the water.
>>>
>> Could be related to pressure issues maybe? You neighbors may not have the
>> full story. Try calling the water company and asking?
>>
>> Here's another odd one you can come into. Once when renting, I was just
>> over the city line and had to pay extra as compared to my next door
>> neighbor. Had to do with x number miles from the city line. As I was right
>> along the line, it wasnt much but that extra 15$ a month puzzled us both til
>> I called. I was careful on how I asked as I was a duplex and didnt want
>> them to charge my neighbor too. I was right, had i mentioned that, they too
>> would have been assessed the extra. Wierd but legal there.
>>
>>
>
>
> Our water is purchased from the city. They add other charges to the
> water bill including trash collection and sewer. The sewer is double
> the price of the water, which means that if you use $100 worth of
> water to water your garden/lawn you will pay $200 in sewer charges! It
> saves a lot to plant draught-resistant grasses and plants. I agree
> with asking your water billing department. Obvious, but also ask how
> you can reduce your water bill.
>

Ah, the benefits of having a well and septic system.

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Posted by Bob F on December 14, 2007, 4:38 pm

> wrote:
>
>>"Bud H" wrote
>>> After a check with my neighbors, it appears the city charges WAY more per
>>> cubic foot of water if you have a 1-inch diameter supply pipe coming into
>>> your house (and is where the city metering device is installed) than if a
>>> 5/8-inch diameter pipe is supplying the water.
>>
>>Could be related to pressure issues maybe? You neighbors may not have the
>>full story. Try calling the water company and asking?
>>
>>Here's another odd one you can come into. Once when renting, I was just
>>over the city line and had to pay extra as compared to my next door
>>neighbor. Had to do with x number miles from the city line. As I was right
>>along the line, it wasnt much but that extra 15$ a month puzzled us both til
>>I called. I was careful on how I asked as I was a duplex and didnt want
>>them to charge my neighbor too. I was right, had i mentioned that, they too
>>would have been assessed the extra. Wierd but legal there.
>>
>
>
> Our water is purchased from the city. They add other charges to the
> water bill including trash collection and sewer. The sewer is double
> the price of the water, which means that if you use $100 worth of
> water to water your garden/lawn you will pay $200 in sewer charges! It
> saves a lot to plant draught-resistant grasses and plants. I agree
> with asking your water billing department. Obvious, but also ask how
> you can reduce your water bill.

In Seattle, the sewer bill is based on the low 3 months water usage, so they are
not calculating in summer watering.



Posted by Rick Blaine on December 14, 2007, 5:34 pm
>> After a check with my neighbors, it appears the city charges WAY more per
>> cubic foot of water if you have a 1-inch diameter supply pipe coming into
>> your house (and is where the city metering device is installed) than if a
>> 5/8-inch diameter pipe is supplying the water.
>
>Could be related to pressure issues maybe? You neighbors may not have the
>full story. Try calling the water company and asking?

This is a pretty common scheme in the US. It's a back door way into progressive
water rates, i.e. you can afford to pay more, so we're going to bill you more.

In most communities, the water itself is free. The costs that have to be
recovered are the distribution and replacement costs and those are generally
fixed (unrelated to the amount of water used).

Larger (ie more expensive) houses and businesses tend to have larger supply
lines, so they get hit with higher costs.

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Posted by Bud H on December 14, 2007, 11:04 pm

> "Bud H" wrote
>> After a check with my neighbors, it appears the city charges WAY more per
>> cubic foot of water if you have a 1-inch diameter supply pipe coming into
>> your house (and is where the city metering device is installed) than if a
>> 5/8-inch diameter pipe is supplying the water.
>
> Could be related to pressure issues maybe? You neighbors may not have the
> full story. Try calling the water company and asking?
>
> Here's another odd one you can come into. Once when renting, I was just
> over the city line and had to pay extra as compared to my next door
> neighbor. Had to do with x number miles from the city line. As I was
> right along the line, it wasnt much but that extra 15$ a month puzzled us
> both til I called. I was careful on how I asked as I was a duplex and
> didnt want them to charge my neighbor too. I was right, had i mentioned
> that, they too would have been assessed the extra. Wierd but legal there.
>

Not only am I getting charged extra for the 1-inch supply pipe, but because
I am 100 yards over the city line, I have to pay 20% more......good
grief.....

Bud H



Posted by HeyBub on December 14, 2007, 7:36 pm
Bud H wrote:
> I moved into a new house in northern Indiana and a recent water/sewer
> bill was over $100 for only two persons living in the house and not
> using excessive amounts of water.
>
> After a check with my neighbors, it appears the city charges WAY more
> per cubic foot of water if you have a 1-inch diameter supply pipe
> coming into your house (and is where the city metering device is
> installed) than if a 5/8-inch diameter pipe is supplying the water.
>
> So if two houses both use the same volume of water in a month, if one
> has a 1-inch supply pipe it is billed almost twice as much as a house
> with a 5/8-inch supply pipe.
>
> Is it just me, or does seem completely ridiculous to be billed so
> differently for the same volume of water?
>
> Bud H

Offer that you will pay his ENTIRE water bill, if your neighbor will let you
tap into his supply line. Or offer to give him $50/month. Then have your
water service disconnected.

You both come out ahead; only the avaricious city loses.



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