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Water heater piping luv2cmwork 01-03-2007
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Posted by on January 3, 2007, 9:22 am


Just replaced my water heater last night.

I used to do some plumbing and have a general knowledge.

On the old water heater, the cold water feed, was 1/2" copper, that
narrowed down to 3/8" copper, before entering the 3/4 nipples into the
water heater. The hot water coming out, was also 3/8" copper coming
off the 3/4" nipple and fed a 1/2" hot water line.

Undersized piping, I'm sure.

I would like to someday, redo the plumbing in the house and take out
some of that undersized piping. So, I hooked up the water heater with
3/4" from both the hot and cold, and plumbed into the 1/2" piping
(planning for the future).

This morning, while showering for the first time with the new water
heater, the water temperature was very inconsistant and the water
pressure seemed lower. The water would go from hot to cold and it was
very hard to maintain a stead temperature. The water was hot...very
hot, when turned to just hot.

At first I thought maybe it was an anti-scald valve or something...that
I had the water too hot. But I realized this was not an anti-scald
valve. It was a regular oldtime shower valve.

Would my taking that 3/8" pipe out and replacing with 3/4 cause these
symtoms? Or could it be something with the new water heater?

Thanks for your anticipated reply.


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Posted by Mikepier on January 3, 2007, 9:40 am



luv2cmwork@gmail.com wrote:
> Just replaced my water heater last night.
>
> I used to do some plumbing and have a general knowledge.
>
> On the old water heater, the cold water feed, was 1/2" copper, that
> narrowed down to 3/8" copper, before entering the 3/4 nipples into the
> water heater. The hot water coming out, was also 3/8" copper coming
> off the 3/4" nipple and fed a 1/2" hot water line.
>
> Undersized piping, I'm sure.
>
> I would like to someday, redo the plumbing in the house and take out
> some of that undersized piping. So, I hooked up the water heater with
> 3/4" from both the hot and cold, and plumbed into the 1/2" piping
> (planning for the future).
>
> This morning, while showering for the first time with the new water
> heater, the water temperature was very inconsistant and the water
> pressure seemed lower. The water would go from hot to cold and it was
> very hard to maintain a stead temperature. The water was hot...very
> hot, when turned to just hot.
>
> At first I thought maybe it was an anti-scald valve or something...that
> I had the water too hot. But I realized this was not an anti-scald
> valve. It was a regular oldtime shower valve.
>
> Would my taking that 3/8" pipe out and replacing with 3/4 cause these
> symtoms? Or could it be something with the new water heater?

You did the right thing by going from 3/4" to 1/2" and eliminating the
3/8" pipe. I do not think doing that should affect the inconsistency of
the temp or the water pressure in the shower. Try testing another area
like the kitchen sink or washing machine and see if the temp and
pressure is consistent. If you still have the same problem, you might
have a blockage somewhere.


Posted by on January 3, 2007, 11:47 am



> You did the right thing by going from 3/4" to 1/2" and eliminating the
> 3/8" pipe. I do not think doing that should affect the inconsistency of
> the temp or the water pressure in the shower.

Keep in mind, that this is what I have now:


<-----Cold water 1/2"------>
|
|
| <---------Hot water - 1/2"------>
| |
3/4" 3/4"
| |
| |
| |
---------------------------------------------------------
| Hot water heater |
| |

So I have 1/2" feeding 3/4 lines as well as 3/4 lines feeing 1/2 inch.

To try to correct the problem, this morning I closed the feed valve
just a little, thinking maybe if I reduced the flow, it might help?


Posted by Speedy Jim on January 3, 2007, 9:50 am


luv2cmwork@gmail.com wrote:

> Just replaced my water heater last night.
>
> I used to do some plumbing and have a general knowledge.
>
> On the old water heater, the cold water feed, was 1/2" copper, that
> narrowed down to 3/8" copper, before entering the 3/4 nipples into the
> water heater. The hot water coming out, was also 3/8" copper coming
> off the 3/4" nipple and fed a 1/2" hot water line.
>
> Undersized piping, I'm sure.
>
> I would like to someday, redo the plumbing in the house and take out
> some of that undersized piping. So, I hooked up the water heater with
> 3/4" from both the hot and cold, and plumbed into the 1/2" piping
> (planning for the future).
>
> This morning, while showering for the first time with the new water
> heater, the water temperature was very inconsistant and the water
> pressure seemed lower. The water would go from hot to cold and it was
> very hard to maintain a stead temperature. The water was hot...very
> hot, when turned to just hot.
>
> At first I thought maybe it was an anti-scald valve or something...that
> I had the water too hot. But I realized this was not an anti-scald
> valve. It was a regular oldtime shower valve.
>
> Would my taking that 3/8" pipe out and replacing with 3/4 cause these
> symtoms? Or could it be something with the new water heater?
>
> Thanks for your anticipated reply.
>


No, the 3/4" shouldn't matter. Certainly didn't lower the "pressure"
or flow.

You say the water is very hot now. It may simply be that the
'stat on the new heater is set higher or has a wider differential
than the old one. That high temp can make the shower control
difficult to adjust. Set the tank temp lower as an experiment.

Jim

Posted by on January 3, 2007, 11:50 am


> You say the water is very hot now. It may simply be that the
> 'stat on the new heater is set higher or has a wider differential
> than the old one. That high temp can make the shower control
> difficult to adjust. Set the tank temp lower as an experiment.
>
> Jim

Thanks Jim, for the reply.

The problem is, that it will go from hot, to cold, without changing the
shower control. I can be standing under the shower perfectly
fine....and then get a shot of very hot water, followed by colder
water. And this happened consistently this morning.

I'll try experimenting, but I wondered if there was something else??


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